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what I have heard in this regard is that women are more reluctant to damage their appearance. Plus women tend to have a higher comfort level with and more access to medications and less access and lower comfort level to guns.

also women tend to chose methods (overdose, asphyxiation) that would not leave as much of a mess to clean up.
 
Men account for only about 20 percent of suicide attempts but represent about 80 percent of completed suicides, statistics show, almost certainly because they choose more lethal methods: guns and leaps from high places instead of drug overdoses, Ongur said.

Political correct gibberish - many women (especially young women and teens) attempt suicide as a cry for help or to get attention which is why they have such a high failure rate.
 
It is a double-edged sword because it leads to abuse. There is a great documentary on it on Netflix (forget the name).

Would it be Death As A Salesman: What's Wrong With Assisted Suicide ? There's a reason this film's mention are primarily in the various right-to-life/religious circles; it's arguments are specious and anecdote-driven.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199611283352227

Among the cases a euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide, less than 1% were without the explicit, concurrent consent of the patient.

Concerns about abuse are a distraction from the issues, not central to the issues.
 
You do realize not every suicide victim has close family right?
You also realize that occasionally the loved ones are in fact better off without the person alive and in thier lives right.

The molested child is affected negatively every single time.

Yes, I realize that some people have no family, but the majority do. Yes, I certainly realize that some families are better off without the person in their lives, but again, the majority aren't. I also agree that a molested child is affected negatively every single time. I simply stated my opinion, which was that more people suffer because of suicide, and at a much greater rate.

I agree with all of this.
I think assisted suicide should absolutely be available to certain people

Agreed.

Women always looking for attention.
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I have some comments about this, but I will refrain. In short, I agree with this too.
 
Having a bad day or two, is no where near clinic depression (I am not saying you are saying that). The Beast rarely loses a fight. There are different levels of depression. Some people can't just snap out of it. Look at all the "cowards" in the military because suicide is a real issue there. (I am being sarcastic). People are in real debilitating pain and they are not thinking rationally when they decide to take their lives. In their minds ending it is rational because they are in so much pain. The darkness is overwhelming and can be consuming even with medicine and counseling. Some of the insensitive comments just show how far we as a society have to go before really addressing this issue. It is a very complex issue that requires constant attention and complete compassion and not ridicule or shame.

Veterans association needs to sue US military for feeding our soldiers food that cause them depression. Why they feed them poison when I know this is bad for them?

Other countries, they have like 1 or 2 depressed militants per year because they have anti-GMO laws and stuff so military food is organic. America has like 3000 depressed. French have like 5 I think.
 
Thought these demographics of suicide were pretty interesting:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...1164d6-225e-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html

Especially this one:



That's wild if that's accurate. I would have guessed men attempted suicide more and that both had a similar "success" rate if I was just pulling stuff out of the air.

My brother committed suicide with the use of a gun.

Two of my female cousins attempted suicide multiple times via drugs and slitting their wrists...I think those were the methods anyway.
 
My brother committed suicide with the use of a gun.

Two of my female cousins attempted suicide multiple times via drugs and slitting their wrists...I think those were the methods anyway.

Thanks for the positive comments from some of you. My post and your private comments to it made me wonder whether or not I could find my post here on the board about my brother's suicide nearly four years ago, just five days after it happened. I'll post it here again now since it's on topic. While I would change the wording of it some, I still feel exactly the same.


"Okay, so I'll preface all this by saying I realize I am a complete dumbass on this board. I realize that but what I am about to say is 100% true. It happened. And I can only hope it will be read, pondered on, and taken to heart. Truly taken to heart. For some it may hit close to home. If it does, I apologize in advance. However my intentions are pure. I post it because I truly hope someone here reads it, and in some way, today, tomorrow, next week, next month or next year, can turn it on end and into something positive.

On Friday night, my brother took his own life with one of his guns. He was 39. He was a great-looking man who taught like myself, though high school, and was extremely talented and passionate. He was extremely intelligent, went to a very good, 300+ year old college (I believe at the time he matriculated, it was the most selective college in the country--not that that's a tell-all but you get my point), was hard-working to a fault (had two Masters and always worked night jobs), was in amazing physical condition, was an amazing coach, very good rock climber who tackled the Gunks in NY which I think had 5-10's or 5-11"s he conquered for those of you who know what I'm talking about, a surfer of decent ability, great cook, and talented musician who had his own CD produced and put on I-tunes, though if I'm being honest probably doesn't mean much and wasn't my cup of tea. He had so, so much going for him. But he still took his own life.

I mention this because the signs were there. Despite all his amazing qualities, he was volatile. Though he was intense 24/7, almost no one other than myself or my parents probably saw it kicked up a few more notches into a scary side, and it was for this reason he and I didn't speak. We were probably only on speaking terms for about four out of the last 10 years. Out of my choice. Over that time, he had three different blow-ups after which I told my mother, "I don't need to be around that. I don't need that around my future children. His drama's ridiculous." It wasn't simple anger. He was complex and went through some things in his life which ultimately led to his demise. I said to my parents that he was a tortured soul who was always chasing something he couldn't find. And hell, I've thought that about him for years.

Again, the warning signs were there. I had literally said to my parents and a few other people that he'd probably take his own life or someone else's at some point. Thank God the latter didn't happen. And while I had essentially removed myself from his life, I can't help but feel some feelings of regret. Regret that I could have at least once called him or sent him an email trying to help. If I'm being honest with myself, I doubt he would have listened. But in my heart, I know I was the one he always unconditionally loved. Not my parents for childhood reasons which my brother never got over. Me.

But I did nothing about it. Others still can. Some of you may know someone who you believe needs help but like my brother doesn't want it. So what. Try. Be persistent. Be there for them full of love in your heart and try. Have others do the same. It can't hurt.

Maybe that's not totally true. Had my parents, specifically my dad really, been too persistent in trying to reach out, I think he may gone after my father. Knowing that rage was within him probably held me back from trying myself. I didn't want to be at the end of his barrel. But everyone is different. Use your best judgment, try (there are so many ways one can try) at least once to help a loved one or someone who you may not even be that close to who you feel needs a helping hand. I'm not saying to pity them. Pity is ******** and offensive and people can see it a mile away.

I don't want anyone to pity me. It is what it is. Volatile people do volatile things especially when other elements which I'd rather not divulge are involved. But do the right thing and reach out to people when you think they need the help.

Do the right thing.

I love you brother."
 
Tried to rep. Thanks for sharing.



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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to QuinSnydersHair again

Thanks for posting that.
 
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