RIP Robin Williams

[Harambe]

.......................... and here comes our stupid cow, pulling the heavy troll plow.

I'm not so sure it is a troll. The difference between mental disorder and mental illness is marginal at best. I feel like there's two things that need to be addressed before we agree or disagree with the buttfish's statement.

1. Is Child Molesting learned behavior, or the result of a natural imbalance of some sort in the brain? I dare say in almost all cases it's a combination of the two, but that's just opinion.
2. Compare and contrast the Victimology between the two offenses. One severely traumatizes children leading them to have an immense degree of (up to permanent)mental disorders themselves; the other traumatizes those who had a connection to the offender only as much as the connection itself, but rarely enough to cause permanent damage.

There's great thinking there, and it should be thought through more thoroughly before tossing the notion aside.

 

[The Midnight]

I'm sure I've said a kind word about you at least once…maybe.

I'll work on it, ok?

At least you're being honest - gotta give you that.


Well work on it then, cos the things you say and the things you do aren't remotely close IMO.

 

[♪alt13]

What a horrible read the last few pages have been.

 

[TroutBum]

Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. Fwiw, I wasn't singling out molestation, or murder, or rape; just trying to make a point, or rather, open up the conversation.

In response to an answer that most of you brought up re: suicide not causing harm to others, we will simply have to agree to disagree on that one. I dare say that the three year old girl who gets molested by a neighbor is better off than the wife who comes home to find a son or husband who has blown their head off. Both are tragic and horrific, but the suicide will haunt the wife and family much longer and harder than the child who will not remember the abuse.

But seriously, thanks for the responses.

 

[UGLI baby]

Trout.

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[TroutBum]

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STAAAAAHP.




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WTF does that crap mean? You hipsters and your LOL's n' ****.

 

[UGLI baby]

lol


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[LogGrad98]

Thank you all for the thoughtful responses. Fwiw, I wasn't singling out molestation, or murder, or rape; just trying to make a point, or rather, open up the conversation.

In response to an answer that most of you brought up re: suicide not causing harm to others, we will simply have to agree to disagree on that one. I dare say that the three year old girl who gets molested by a neighbor is better off than the wife who comes home to find a son or husband who has blown their head off. Both are tragic and horrific, but the suicide will haunt the wife and family much longer and harder than the child who will not remember the abuse.

But seriously, thanks for the responses.

It absolutely hurts the family, but it also begs the question, whose pain matters most? I don't think there will ever be an easy answer to that question. I can understand both sides of the equation, and my pick would be to do our best to push things forward so we can stop the pain all the way around.

 

[candrew]

Turns out Williams was recently diagnosed with Parkinsons.

 

[cowhide]

I don't disagree but with a wife and loved ones, I simply find it selfish. And this does not mean I don't feel sorry for the guy or terrible for his family. As others have pointed out, mental illness is a disease. I've had some God awful days where I feel at my wit's end, and question how to go on. To endure that every day for years must feel like an insidious cancer, corroding your every thought and soul.

Having a bad day or two, is no where near clinic depression (I am not saying you are saying that). The Beast rarely loses a fight. There are different levels of depression. Some people can't just snap out of it. Look at all the "cowards" in the military because suicide is a real issue there. (I am being sarcastic). People are in real debilitating pain and they are not thinking rationally when they decide to take their lives. In their minds ending it is rational because they are in so much pain. The darkness is overwhelming and can be consuming even with medicine and counseling. Some of the insensitive comments just show how far we as a society have to go before really addressing this issue. It is a very complex issue that requires constant attention and complete compassion and not ridicule or shame.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Having a bad day or two, is no where near clinic depression (I am not saying you are saying that). The Beast rarely loses a fight. There are different levels of depression. Some people can't just snap out of it. Look at all the "cowards" in the military because suicide is a real issue there. (I am being sarcastic). People are in real debilitating pain and they are not thinking rationally when they decide to take their lives. In their minds ending it is rational because they are in so much pain. The darkness is overwhelming and can be consuming even with medicine and counseling. Some of the insensitive comments just show how far we as a society have to go before really addressing this issue. It is a very complex issue that requires constant attention and complete compassion and not ridicule or shame.

A guy I know actually took his life last week. He has been dealing with horrendous back pain for years, and it has caused issues in his work and personal life. He was on pain killers all the time, and pretty groggy. He caused him to go into deep depression. Pretty sad.

 

[cowhide]

Is suicide still selfish if the person has no friends or family at all?

Is it selfish if the suicidal persons friends and family wish he wasn't in thier lives?

Just curious

What if the person has a life threatening disease or one that takes away the quality of life? So is it selfish for the people who keep the person alive just so they can be with that person a few extra days? I am a supporter of the right to chose to end your life. No one owns my body. If I had ALS or MS, untreatable cancer or some other horrible disease, I would say good bye to my kids and jump in my car and move to Oregon or Washington so I could be euthanized when the moment was right.