Tim is the national reporter most connected to the Jazz. If he is saying that it's probably what the FO has relayed to him
Taylor Hendricks Hype Thread
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My best guess is that they just couldn't convince themselves of anyone so they took the guy with the best combination of athletic and size potential. They were also probably depressed Bilal got taken.
The college game is just so different that it's hard to know which guys will come in and take to concepts and which guys will just look like a chicken with their head cut off.
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So are we going to operate on the assumption that they got rid of some deadwood to give THT more minutes? What the Jazz DID after the trades leaves that as the only other possibility.
No, he said it was because they didn't view KO as being a long term piece and they stopped believing in Ochai
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And yet he can still do some valuable things on the court for us right now.
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But both of those decisions are based somewhat the other options available. They lost faith in Ochai in comparison with what? It had to have something to do with reallocating Ochais minutes. Who got those minutes?
I agree that if Ochai was performing they wouldn't have sent him off and given his minutes to Hendricks. But he was not and they did. So to say it wasn't a consideration is silly.
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Early in the season you were clear that writing TH off was a bad idea and that people had gone there too soon.I completely agreed. Then after a few decent showings you said everyone had to get on the bus because it was leaving. I said there was plenty of time to get on the bus and that it was far from leaving. Where are you at now with the future of TH?
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My love for TH grows everyday.
I am mostly in the same space. He's shown some improvement and the get on the bus thing is really just a joke. I just think its hilarious how quick we are to declare one guy trash and one guy amazing. It was really a declare your love and belief now or don't come back here saying you always believed. Its just weird to slobber over guys we didn't get and **** on a guy we did get. Like imagine Bilal had swatted KD like that in the first or second week of the season... there would have been pages about how we have to suffer with our bust while this guy is locking up KD.
The general premise behind Taylor for me hasn't changed. He is something of a Jaden Mcdaniels, Prime RoCo, type and might be a better shooter than both. Its not a particularly amazingly high ceiling... but its a ceiling I think he has a good chance of getting to... and he may end up surprising with some other skills. He's probably more raw than I would guess but they do have him running some cuts of screens that has shown some promise I didn't think would be there.
I worry about his feel a bit and his instincts... I simply want people to let the cake bake and root for him for hells sake instead of ******** on him.
Just listened to this….so odd. Bontemps saying the typical line of “opens up playing time for young player” and McMahon immediately shuts that down lol. Sounds like whoever McMahon has been talking to thinks TH should still be in the gleague.
Hendricks is the anti-Ochai. He’s got no good PR.
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Unless OP jr. Gets the time then I think hardy showed his hand with the rotation last night. I love McMahon but it seems indeed that time will open up for Taylor.
gomretat
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How quickly people fall in love with or dismiss players is amazing to me, especially because of how often quick decisions are proved wrong.
Locke was talking about how it might be best for Hendricks to start instead of coming off the bench.
I would probably agree. It's going to be tough to fit him in lineups where he makes sense and the starting lineup sans Collins does make sense for him.
I would probably agree. It's going to be tough to fit him in lineups where he makes sense and the starting lineup sans Collins does make sense for him.
I mean, we are all playing armchair GM here. It's better to make quick decisions than do nothing and have a player's value disappear.
Locke brought it up as well. Talked about how it was good Utah gave up on Ochai and were able to get a first out of him. If you wait another year and he doesnt improve, you arent able to do that trade in all likelihood. Sometimes you got to make a call early. He compared it to how long we sat on Trey Burke even though it should have been obvious he didnt have it.
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8I noticed Hendricks was grabbing some strong rebounds last night but I just realized he had 8 rebounds in 18 minutes. 2 of them offensive. Very nice
I have a hard time with envisioning him in the Ochai role and not having him give you more of what you wanted Ochai to give you. Yeah, maybe he isn’t grabbing as many rebounds as you’d like, but that’s comparing him to a big. I’d imagine his per minute stats across the board are better and his three point shooting numbers are better.
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Collins ain't coming off the bench until next year. Maybe if they load manage we will see Taylor with that group. Jazz would be too worried Collins trade value takes a hit. Eventually that is the play if you can't trade him this offseason.
He will certainly make more plays than Ochai, but he's going to make a ton more mistakes.
Im continually shocked by how much people try to simply impact and a player being good/bad. Brings me back to HH during the draft where he was convinced Hendricks could be a positive impact rookie simply because he shot the ball well in college and averaged mediocre block numbers at UCF.
Yeah, Ochai was not good here, but he was typically in the right spots and making the right plays and playing solid to good defense. He just lost all confidence in his jumper and all he had in his game was a jumper.
Hendricks is probably going to make more plays per minute than Ochai, but he's going to be out of position, he's going to have crazy drives to the lane that result in hard bricks off the backboard, he's going to look lost, etc.
Yeah, Ochai was not good here, but he was typically in the right spots and making the right plays and playing solid to good defense. He just lost all confidence in his jumper and all he had in his game was a jumper.
Hendricks is probably going to make more plays per minute than Ochai, but he's going to be out of position, he's going to have crazy drives to the lane that result in hard bricks off the backboard, he's going to look lost, etc.
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