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Comparable rookie years to Keyonte's. (I thought I had linked just the PER 36 min section of each player) Just look at the rookie year Per 36 min

Trade Sexton for Luka

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Not necessarily related to the current discussion, but last night Sexton was guarding Jason Tatum for part of the game and when I looked at who was on the floor with him, I realized that Sexton was as good of a bet as anybody else. We have some serious personnel issues when it comes to having guys that are capable of defending. We really need to draft, sign, or trade for guys who can defend.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Not necessarily related to the current discussion, but last night Sexton was guarding Jason Tatum for part of the game and when I looked at who was on the floor with him, I realized that Sexton was as good of a bet as anybody else. We have some serious personnel issues when it comes to having guys that are capable of defending. We really need to draft, sign, or trade for guys who can defend.
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The nice part about this draft is that at the back end of the 1st rd and early 2nd rd their should be a nice collection of long athletic wings to take a look at. In free agency I would love to put a big offer on Okoro and force the cavs to match. I think that is a win win because we either get the guy or make the cavs future salary situation even more uncomfortable.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Not necessarily related to the current discussion, but last night Sexton was guarding Jason Tatum for part of the game and when I looked at who was on the floor with him, I realized that Sexton was as good of a bet as anybody else. We have some serious personnel issues when it comes to having guys that are capable of defending. We really need to draft, sign, or trade for guys who can defend.
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Dunn
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Arrest me.

Just trade Sexton. I think he's good enough he will return good value and he will be at peak value this off-season. It's not a disrespect thing like a lot of you babies want to try and twist it as.
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Define good value. Give us 2-3 hypotheticals that make sense for us.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Agreed, we should re-sign him. Probably need more than one guy though.
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Dunn, hopefully Hendricks. Trading Sexton and Clarkson. Whoever you replace those two with will be a massive defensive improvement. That's the most important thing, getting rid of the two biggest weak links on D
 
Keefe said:
Define good value. Give us 2-3 hypotheticals that make sense for us.
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The Spurs have the Raptors pick, which will likely be 7th or 8th I believe. Matching salary for Sexton and that pick.

Normally a pick that high would be too valuable to give up for Sexton, but the Spurs having two top 10 picks may push them towards trading it
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Pretty much agree. I think the only real scenario I could see us moving Collin is if there is a team like say SA with the #7 pick from toronto and there are two prospects we like and want to get at 7 and 9. If there isn't anyone they love and they want to start to be better next year Collin could help. If its just for a future first a few years out I'm not sure we are doing that.
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Lol...
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Well at some point I'm probably going to be right. Props to Sexton for proving me extremely wrong up to this point. If he does it again, great. I get that you are trying to argue that I'm just hating, but it's far from hating. I really like watching him play now. The facts are just the facts and unless he's truly special (like top 30 player) those aren't changing.
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It is now, and has forever been "Hating." It's your only real move.
 
Dude has grown leaps and bounds from the beginning of the year. His skill set at the beginning of the year seemed super limited. He was passive and when he did shoot it seemed like a miracle if the shot went in. Im finally believing he could realistically be an Allstar in 2-4 years.
 
Listening to Dunc'd on now talking about the Jazz. One fun fact they came up with was that the only rookie pg aged 19-20 and picked outside the lottery who have played as many minutes as Keyonte, is Theo Maledon. They were obviously not comparing them, just noting how rare it is for this to happen.
 
silesian said:
The article was about giving players who haven't got PT some action. Don't see where she said that.
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He likes to really reach… every article or mention or not mention of Collin means they are just about to trade him. JZ referred to Sexton as a top 50 player a week or so ago on his radio spot. We can all make of that what we want though. Unless we get a great offer I think Collin plays here next season. We will see after that.
 
silesian said:
The article was about giving players who haven't got PT some action. Don't see where she said that.
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silesian said:
The article was about giving players who haven't got PT some action. Don't see where she said that.
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What about chemistry-building with players who could be on the team long term?

To that, I would ask, does anyone really believe that the majority of the players on this roster will be here when the Jazz truly are vying for playoff contention? I don’t.

I think that the Jazz want to build around Markkanen and love the versatility that he offers when thinking about building a winning team. Outside of that, I guess you could say that Walker Kessler and Keyonte George are likely to be around for a while. So sure, play those guys and mix in some of these other young players who we know nothing about
 
Given Keyonte's improvement since the numbers were given a month ago, his efficiency must look better
 
Keyonte's #'s are great, but his eye test is even better. Some of the spins he put on his opponents last night were All-NBA quality. Dude is for real.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
What about chemistry-building with players who could be on the team long term?

To that, I would ask, does anyone really believe that the majority of the players on this roster will be here when the Jazz truly are vying for playoff contention? I don’t.

I think that the Jazz want to build around Markkanen and love the versatility that he offers when thinking about building a winning team. Outside of that, I guess you could say that Walker Kessler and Keyonte George are likely to be around for a while. So sure, play those guys and mix in some of these other young players who we know nothing about
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And incremental improvements help team trajectory even if that player is not on the championship team.

if Simone had not improved we could not have parlayed him into a pick. The pick might be an asset we use to get a rotation guy or use to get a yotstion guy. Or not. It is a stochastic process
 
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