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From here on out are you cheering for us to win or lose?

From here on out are you cheering for us to win or lose?

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I don’t think the Jazz are in a perpetual rebuild though.

Lauri is aging, but has proven to be awesome when healthy.

Keyonte has taken a huge step forward and still looks to have more upside.

Kessler was looking great before he hurt his shoulder and got shut down.

Ace and WCJ are both rookies who’ve shown some flashes. Ace in particular has such ridiculous upside.

If any of Sensabaugh, Hendricks, Filipowski, Collier and/or Cody turn out to be NBA caliber players, they can provide depth or value in a trade.

And while the team’s assets have certainly depreciated since the summer of ‘22, you can get into the conversation if you throw enough picks into the mix. Probably doesn’t get you into the Giannis sweepstakes, but it can get you a guy like Deni if you’re positioned to make an advantageous trade.

Just have to extinguish the Thunder’s claim to the current pick.
 
Coach Ellis said:
I don’t think the Jazz are in a perpetual rebuild though.

Lauri is aging, but has proven to be awesome when healthy.

Keyonte has taken a huge step forward and still looks to have more upside.

Kessler was looking great before he hurt his shoulder and got shut down.

Ace and WCJ are both rookies who’ve shown some flashes. Ace in particular has such ridiculous upside.

If any of Sensabaugh, Hendricks, Filipowski, Collier and/or Cody turn out to be NBA caliber players, they can provide depth or value in a trade.

And while the team’s assets have certainly depreciated since the summer of ‘22, you can get into the conversation if you throw enough picks into the mix. Probably doesn’t get you into the Giannis sweepstakes, but it can get you a guy like Deni if you’re positioned to make an advantageous trade.

Just have to extinguish the Thunder’s claim to the current pick.
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I mean those Cavs assets are suddenly looking a little more valuable. . .

It was always a catch 22, if we were Washington Wizards quality this season, it would mean that all of our past picks were terrible and we wasted our time. If those picks were passable to good, we probably aren't among the very worst teams in the NBA. What we needed was timely injuries and we got that with Kessler, who I would have pegged as the biggest difference between winning and losing before the season. Without that Kessler injury, there was no chance that we are in any position to keep our pick.

The best position to be in is a "treadmill team" with assets. That is the only position where you actually control your own destiny. We are already that, so I am good. We can still be that AND get a great pick which would be amazing, but our baseline is pretty decent, which is what you hope for, especially as there has never been a lottery pull, or coinflip for that matter, that has EVER been kind to the Jazz.
 
I never want us to lose, I like to see the team win and build that culture. But at the same time I'm not as bothered when we lose, especially with this next draft class.

If we play to win and finish 8th or 9th in the draft surely the basketball gods, aka the NBA draft lottery team, will reward us for the lean years?

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/sarcasm
 
Tanktastic said:
Why wouldn't they be though?

Unless the Jazz get lucky in the lottery, they're exactly in the same spot a year from now as they are now.
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That's the thing.

This "one more year" narrative is ridiculous. The lifespan of a tank obviously depends on the results. I mean people keep saying that the current roster "is not enough". Why would it necessarily be enough after this year's draft?

And if it's not, what then?
 
Tanktastic said:
Why wouldn't they be though?

Unless the Jazz get lucky in the lottery, they're exactly in the same spot a year from now as they are now.
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Incorrect. A year from now Kessler and Ace will be on the court. All the other young guys will be more experienced/mature. We will likely gain/lose players in free agency/off season. We own other teams draft picks. Even if we dont have lottery luck we may still have a nice pick in this draft.

Long story short, the team on the court next season at this time will 100% guaranteed be different than the team that plays today.
 
fishonjazz said:
Incorrect. A year from now Kessler and Ace will be on the court. All the other young guys will be more experienced/mature. We will likely gain/lose players in free agency/off season. We own other teams draft picks. Even if we dont have lottery luck we may still have a nice pick in this draft.

Long story short, the team on the court next season at this time will 100% guaranteed be different than the team that plays today.
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To start the season the Jazz had Kessler and Ace on the court. No-one, absolutely no-one, was advocating for "let's start winning now".

Whatever Collier/Hendricks/Flip/Sensabaugh/Cody/Walt are or are not has little effect on how well the Jazz do in the future.

The Jazz own all those same draft picks right now. And as a whole they have deteriorated in value (Lakers pick not looking good and somehow the Suns seem to not be bad).

So, unless the Jazz are super-lucky, what exactly has changed to suddenly quit tanking and start "let's go for it"? Everyone's patience is done? Doesn't really sound like a solid plan.
 
Tanktastic said:
To start the season the Jazz had Kessler and Ace on the court. No-one, absolutely no-one, was advocating for "let's start winning now".

Whatever Collier/Hendricks/Flip/Sensabaugh/Cody/Walt are or are not has little effect on how well the Jazz do in the future.

The Jazz own all those same draft picks right now. And as a whole they have deteriorated in value (Lakers pick not looking good and somehow the Suns seem to not be bad).

So, unless the Jazz are super-lucky, what exactly has changed to suddenly quit tanking and start "let's go for it"? Everyone's patience is done? Doesn't really sound like a solid plan.
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The team on the court for a game January first of next year will look different than today.
 
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