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Look, it's my opinion, and I'm giving it. I'm done with the thread. Have the last word if you need it.

Per Wikipedia, the "J" stands for "Jay."

I think this boils down to what you look for in a franchise. Is winning the (real) point? Sure. Is it the be-all end-all of life as a sports fan? Not to me. I follow my university's basketball squad. I know that their chances of winning in March are so minuscule that they might as well not...

I think you are convoluting real life with this hypothetical. That shot was real and not in this hypothetical scenario. We did have hope, yes. Because it was real life. Would the shot be less monumental if we knew the team wouldn't win? Maybe, maybe not. It was still a great shot though...

I see your point and hope you see mine. It's my opinion, after all. Yes, I would stay a fan if only for the work ethic of the players.

I don't think I'm wording my position well. Here's another crack at it: Then how do you explain prototypical Clippers fans? For all intents and purposes, those fans know the Clippers have no chance whatsoever. They have, historically, set the benchmark for futility that will likely not ever...

Wasn't there a graphic tonight on the broadcast that said that AJ shoots 40-something percent in the first half but bumps it up to 50-something in the second half? Still, his ability to collect blocks, rebounds, hit a pass here and there, and provide leadership makes him worth the growing...

vj, I understand your point and the assumptions of the hypothetical. Trust me, I do. I'll say it again: as long as the Jazz employ the same work ethic in this hypothetical future as they have in the past, I will still be a fan. There will still be amazing performances by individuals in games...

I once saw an HBO Real Sports segment (great show, by the way, but that's another topic) that chronicled the Boston Red Sox. For those of you who don't know, they won a World Series title in 1918 and went through an 86-year drought until 2004 when they won again. The Sox made it to the World...

That was the gist of my post: that as long as they put forth the *effort* and display the work ethic that they have become famous for (in my own mind) then yes, I will still be proud to be a Jazz fan. You made a good point earlier about how we could root for the Spurs/Thunder/whoever who are...

I know it's fun and all to stalk message boards, but, uh, you need something else to do.

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While the primary goal, of course, of any professional sports franchise is to win the championship, another aspect of its existence lies in appealing to the fans. Fan bases are different: Boston has always been notoriously blue-collar, the Lakers have always been about pomp and grandeur, the...

I wouldn't call Clyde Drexler a role player on those Rockets teams.

Sorry, it's early (where I'm at) and my sarcasm didn't come out quite right. The if/when, obviously, has occurred. $17M is simply too much to pay a guy who we all wait to turn back the clock and have a 2004-type game. We all know what bad contracts do - take a quick glance at Ostertag's and...

Let the playing speak for itself. I mean, Stockton (in my opinion) most usually looked disinterested (facially) yet he was a gritty, hard-working player. If/when AK starts trotting up the court, making lazy, sloppy passes, looking comatose on defending his guy, etc., then it's time to inspect...

The explosion might have taken out the gunman, however the metal fragments of the tank would act as shrapnel and would shred the cops, the camera crew, and anyone who was unfortunate enough to be nearby.

Assuming that means you are displeased with Sloan to the extent that you'd want to replace him, how do you know that his replacement would be any better? And who would you suggest?

Oddly I didn't do too much better on the baseball one, though it certainly felt easier/faster to type. Astronaut one = 93 wpm, baseball one = 96 wpm.