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This This and more This!
The development of Evans is going to be key to our success.
12-11-2010, Jazz @ Mavs, 6:30 Utah Time
- Thread starter Jerry Lundegaard
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This This and more This!
The development of Evans is going to be key to our success.
Jazz4ever
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Sadly us arm chair guys make a lot of sense. And you wouldn't be here if you didn't think so now would you?
Not necessarily. I'm here because I love the Jazz and I want to discuss the Jazz with other Jazz fans, and because there really aren't any other sites out there for this. Here, we seem to have nothing but self-loathing fans who think they know how to run a team, make personell decisions, and coach better than our staff - all notions that I find highly, HIGHLY laughable even if for some they seem to "make sense". Some guys on this site are like the loony doomsday preacher with their crackpot ideas; most people know they are full of ****, but they will have their small legion of followers and preach like they know what they are talking about.
vslice02
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Actually I do have a background in stats, but that's beside the point.
I'm not sure what you're referencing by "the two games." I'm not comparing last night's game to any other specific game - but there absolutely is a correlation to last night's game and a large sample-size of our comebacks this year.
For the season we're only averaging 23.6 and 23.4 points in the 1st and 2nd qtrs respectively and 26.3 and 26.6 points in the 3rd&4th qtrs respectively. Defensively we give up 25.9, 23.3, 24.2, 23.0 through the 1st-4th qtrs. And last night's our scoring by qtr went 19-23-28-27 and we held Dallas to 22 in the 4th qtr - which is exceptionally good against Dallas but in terms of winning slightly too high - 2 Terry jumpers and some Dirk FT's being the difference. You're reference to "Poor substitution and coaching decisions" are opinion (your opinion) only - and not compareable on a game-by-game basis.
My point is consistently falling behind by 15 points and then attempting to rally late - will not work 100% of the time such as on the East Coast trip. The margin for error down the stretch of games is too small. Sometimes Arroyo and Wade will miss some FT's down the stretch and other times Dirk will make 'em all. You're not always going to have a final 40-seconds like you did in Charlotte of a score, a defensive stop and another score. Just like you live by the 3 - you die by the 3, if you live by 15-point comebacks you'll die by them eventually.
Jerry Lundegaard
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What happened? Hopper is dat dude
Maybe, but those other guys can dribble.
I don't know what he's talking about. I'm trying to GM.
I agree with most of what IGS said. I dont agree with pulling Millsap from the starting lineup depending on who we're playing. That would completely arrest the development of a player. That said, I think we're far enough into the season to note that habit of slow starts. Sloan always talks about making the hard decisions and what not...well, he need to make one right now.
GVC
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Wait, what?
InGameStrategy
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I appreciate the substantial agreement. However, I differ with the notion that pulling Millsap would arrest his development; in the past, Millsap has benefitted from getting unwarranted time glaring mismatches already (starting in years previous), so he's gotten more than his fair share of PT. It's not like I'm proposing that he be DNP'd for games on end like other developing players have been. Sloan has had no problem benching players indiscriminatly (and not just backups; although his play has been off and on lately AK comes to mind among those who have regularly been among the first 7 in the rotation who were benched for no apparent reason). But as I was careful to point out, it's not as important not to start a damaging matchup as to make adjustments quickly. Then again, Dallas vaulted to a near-double digit lead in the first 3 or 4 minutes anyway, so maybe I take that back. No reason to indulge a player with a starting role if he is going to be an instant liability.
Also, I'm only proposing that his minutes be reduced (probably to 25 MPG, give or take a few) in games where the matchups don't work, which is more the exception than the rule. That's a big part of my mantra for using any player, in any game: plan ahead to anticipate the matchups that work, make prompt adjustments mid-game if the matches aren't working, and stick with what works. Sloan did one of those things during the Mavs game, at most; Carlisle clearly did at least two. That first-quarter barrage wasn't luck ("odds"); the Mavericks had their players ready, and the players had themselves ready. Utah's coaches didn't, Utah's players weren't ready, and it took nearly a quarter (following two seemingly fruitless time outs) to adjust.
It isn't rocket science to anticipate (not just previously but in the future) that Deron, Price, maybe Watson, Miles, Evans, maybe AK, and the backup bigs should get extra minutes against the Mavs--and that Millsap and maybe even Jefferson (depending on his performance) should get fewer. By "more" I mean an extra 5 or 10 minutes (at least 10 minutes, up to 35 or so); by "fewer" I mean 5 or 10 minutes below 30 or 35.
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JAZZFAN_2814
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Watching the Jazz double Nowitzki on an iso move towards the basket was tragicomic -- and I don't blame Utah, this is simply the nature of the hand-check clearout era.