Watched Derrick Williams play a couple of times and he seems to be a Lamar Odom/Boris Diaw type so his future is more a power forward in the NBA. Unless we have a deal in place to trade Millsap, I am not sure if we will keep him even if we draft him.
Chad Ford wrote:
2. Harrison Barnes, SF, North Carolina
The good: Barnes is a skilled wing who can do a little bit of everything. He's been especially dangerous in the clutch this season. Barnes has ice water running through his veins and has killed a number of teams late with some great shooting. His high basketball IQ, smooth athleticism and even-keeled demeanor are all pluses.
The bad: He hasn't lived up to the hype. Barnes really struggled out of the gate and lost his place as the consensus No. 1 pick in the draft. Too often, Barnes settles for jump shots instead of taking the ball to the basket. His athletic abilities don't pop the way they do for other top prospects.
The upside: Barnes has been a different player since hitting a game winner against Miami in late January. Since then, he's been averaging 19 points per game for North Carolina, and the team is 12-2 in that stretch. If Barnes can have a few more big games in the tournament, he could move himself back into the conversation for the No. 1 pick in the draft.
Ok so filling the 3, who do you like out of Williams or Barnes?
Would one of these guys also be able to play the 2? or do you just have Hayward play the 2? (until we wait for another move to address this position)
I wouldn't be opposed to the Jazz taking John Henson with their second pick, if he was still on the board. He might be the defensive interior player they're looking for and seems to be pretty smart.
the prob is that he is a 4 all the way. He looks intriguing, but I'd only draft him if I had a trade that sent Millsap out.
I don't think Barnes is as much a project as others believe him to be. I think he's more NBA ready than Hayward was. As a disclaimer, I haven't watched a whole lot this year because I didn't think the Jazz were going to have a pick. Oh, how times have changed.
Yes.... And we've seen how well he's played this year too....
Barnes might end up being the best player in this draft. I'm not knocking that.
However, if he doesn't come in and average 15+ points, we're not going to win even 30 games next year. We are in desperate need of someone to come in and have a Dwade type impact on our team. I remember in his rookie year, he came in and completely changed the whole dynamic of that Heat franchise.
The other issue is Jazz coaching. You'd think that Favors and Hayward would be getting a LOT more PT than they have received. Who's to say next year that CJ, AK, or Raja won't be starting over Barnes?
Who's to say that someone like Millsap or Elson won't be starting over Favors or Enes (if we draft him?)?
Who's to say that Earl Watson/Ronnie Price won't start over Jimmer or whoever else we possibly draft as PG?
There are many factors that we will need to consider. Even if we score well and take the "right" players this draft, a lot will depend on the Jazz's ability to develop them. Judging from our past track record, and Ty's current (stupid) rotations, I'm left with a severe lack of confidence.
Lastly, it would be stupid to stash an international player. We need help NOW. We don't need to stash someone over seas so they can get a good contract in Europe and then cost us an insane amount of money to buyout (and then later find that they're too stiff and soft to survive in the NBA).
Stay domestic and draft the BPA.
How did D-Wade do as a freshman? Or Brandon Roy?
Makes me wonder what the 2012 darft will look like. Maybe a 30-win season next year (standard caveat: if there is a next year) would not be so bad if the 2012 darft has stronger players.
Yes.... And we've seen how well he's played this year too....
Barnes might end up being the best player in this draft. I'm not knocking that.
However, if he doesn't come in and average 15+ points, we're not going to win even 30 games next year. We are in desperate need of someone to come in and have a Dwade type impact on our team. I remember in his rookie year, he came in and completely changed the whole dynamic of that Heat franchise.
The other issue is Jazz coaching. You'd think that Favors and Hayward would be getting a LOT more PT than they have received. Who's to say next year that CJ, AK, or Raja won't be starting over Barnes?
Who's to say that someone like Millsap or Elson won't be starting over Favors or Enes (if we draft him?)?
Who's to say that Earl Watson/Ronnie Price won't start over Jimmer or whoever else we possibly draft as PG?
There are many factors that we will need to consider. Even if we score well and take the "right" players this draft, a lot will depend on the Jazz's ability to develop them. Judging from our past track record, and Ty's current (stupid) rotations, I'm left with a severe lack of confidence.
Lastly, it would be stupid to stash an international player. We need help NOW. We don't need to stash someone over seas so they can get a good contract in Europe and then cost us an insane amount of money to buyout (and then later find that they're too stiff and soft to survive in the NBA).
Stay domestic and draft the BPA.
Oh please, you are being a bit dramatic. We easily have the talent on the roster currently (assuming we have a completely healthy roster at the start of next season) to win at least 40 games. So much crap has happened this year its almost impossible to give an accurate benchmark of how good this team is. With the addition of two lottery picks we are easily in position to make the playoffs next year as a low seed, especially if one of the picks comes in puts up a solid rookie season.