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2018-2019 NBA Season

I am talking about you calling Lebron being a best player in NBA - that was the case last 10 years up to 2018.... not anymore.

He's still the best. An injury doesn't change that until he comes back and his play goes down. He was phenomenal before his injury and meant more to his team than anyone.

Who are your current top 3, MVP?
 
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He's still the best. An injury doesn't change that until he comes back and his play goes down. He was phenomenal before his injury and meant more to his team than anyone.

Who are your current top 3, MVP?
I disagree, by any metrics you look he is not even top 5 anymore. Durant, Kawhi, Curry, Harden and Giannis are top 5 now. And he certainly did not mean more to his team than Harden to Rockets or Giannis to Bucks. How about Kawhi to Raptors in playoffs?
 
I disagree, by any metrics you look he is not even top 5 anymore. Durant, Kawhi, Curry, Harden and Giannis are top 5 now. And he certainly did not mean more to his team than Harden to Rockets or Giannis to Bucks. How about Kawhi to Raptors in playoffs?

Lebron was still king when he went out. We'll see how he comes back from injury but I'm not betting against him.

By stats he's still pretty much as good as ever.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html
 
Lebron was still king when he went out. We'll see how he comes back from injury but I'm not betting against him.

By stats he's still pretty much as good as ever.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html
Lol did you even watch any games? He was slacking on defense worse than Harden for couple last years. Yes he was still getting stats, but those were not better than top 5 I mentioned and his impact on the game was definitely worse than any of top 5.

 
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Lol did you even watch any games? He was slacking on defense worse than Harden for couple last years. Yes he was still getting stats, but those were not better than top 5 I mentioned and his impact on the game was definitely worse than any of top 5.



You need to put down the bong. Lebron did what he had to do. He had them winning until they got the injury bug. He was usual Lebron.

Look at their record 3 months into the season:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2019_games.html
 
You need to put down the bong. Lebron did what he had to do. He had them winning until they got the injury bug. He was usual Lebron.

He certainly was not his usual dominant player on both ends of the floor. His defense was terrible. Best players do not allow themselves to slack on defense.
 
He certainly was not his usual dominant player on both ends of the floor. His defense was terrible. Best players do not allow themselves to slack on defense.

He got injured on Christmas day(his first real injury in 18 years), after that he had to be careful as he played his way back with the groin injury.
Before his injury he had them at 21-14 and vying for one of the best records in the West. You'll recall they were way ahead of the Jazz. The team then went 6-11 without him. Then the wheels really came off when they were decimated with injuries. At that point he went into preservation mode.

Check out this article written right after his return from injury when he took them to an overtime victory and and was responsible for all 11 of the teams points in OT.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/news/190...-reflects-fight-through-longest-injury-career
 
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He got injured on Christmas day(his first real injury in 18 years), after that he had to be careful as he played his way back with the groin injury.
Before his injury he had them at 21-14 and vying for one of the best records in the West. You'll recall they were way ahead of the Jazz. The team then went 6-11 without him. Then the wheels really came off when they were decimated with injuries. At that point he went into preservation mode.

Check out this article written right after his return from injury when he took them to an overtime victory and and was responsible for all 11 of the teams points in OT.

https://www.nba.com/lakers/news/190...-reflects-fight-through-longest-injury-career
Well I disagree with you. I think he is definitely past his prime and surpassed by at least 5 players( maybe even 6 if you add P. George)
 
He certainly was not his usual dominant player on both ends of the floor. His defense was terrible. Best players do not allow themselves to slack on defense.
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