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2023 annual Jazzfanz all time NBA draft

Bawse Dawg said:
Even if all that was true, I thought you wanted to talk draft and leave that behind. Taking a parting shot isn’t going to make that happen. Here we are, still talking about it.

I didn’t necessarily give him the benefit of the doubt. I laid out how it looks from my pov. And specifically told him what a bad look the “I’ll be back in 23 hours and 59 minutes” post was. But he’s not completely wrong in his point, trolling or not. And I feel bad if someone is excluded especially if they feel it was unfairly. I just want everyone to be at peace. I’m sure we’re all happy to move on now. I just don’t think more name calling inside of a ‘let’s move on’ post will be helpful towards that.


Now, let’s move on.
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He is wrong. For one, he didn't just say that he'd be back in 23 hours and 59 minutes. He also said that he would be using up the entire 24 hours for each of his picks. Thee's only mistake was assuming Log was joking and not kicking him right there and then. To make things worse, he comes back and starts an avalanche of posts about how "he only followed the rules", while attacking and mocking Thee, and trying to get others to gang up on the draft organizer with him (like telling Keefe about how much better of an organizer he is). No attempt at compromise or understanding. Just self-righteous ******** about how unfairly he was treated.

But yeah, sure, let's move on...
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Tatum is probably my biggest eyebrow raised so far. What do people think of that pick?
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Why is that an eyebrow raiser?

Y'all are doing single season drafting so it's goign to place even more emphasis on stats (which is dumb for these things IMO, players are ultimately going to get judged on what people think of them in totality so trying to make it single season is an exercise in futility) and he averaged 30-9-5 on efficiency. That rivals a lot of the season by top forward scorers.
 
Fosto said:
He's a good player. I think there are better players still available, but he's no worse than some of the players that were already picked.
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Yea he wouldn’t sniff this range in a best players draft. But a wing with great size, really good shooter, good defender, etc. that’s gonna be additive on any team he’s on. So I get it
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Why is that an eyebrow raiser?

Y'all are doing single season drafting and he averaged 30-9-5 on efficiency. That rivals a lot of the season by top forward scorers.
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You’re right but I also don’t weigh those 2023 counting stats even close to someone doing it in the 80’s through the aughts.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
You’re right but I also don’t weigh those 2023 counting stats even close to someone doing it in the 80’s through the aughts.
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IN reality almost everyone from the modern era is better than most players of comparable skill level in the 80s because those most modern players have a wider skillset.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
IN reality almost everyone from the modern era is better than most players of comparable skill level in the 80s because those most modern players have a wider skillset.
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I agree with you. The level of play is just so much higher across the board. But I think big names from the past would probably get more votes than superior modern players with less than stellar reputation. For example, there's a couple of MVP level players from the 2010s still unpicked, even though they're far more skilled than some of the players from the pre-80s that were picked.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
IN reality almost everyone from the modern era is better than most players of comparable skill level in the 80s because those most modern players have a wider skillset.
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Agreed which is why there’s a lot of nuance in how you rank this thing. If I have a pre 80’s guard who played without a three point line completely and would look awful on a court today. But was the best shooter/player of his era. How do we do that calculus? Part of the fun I guess.
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I’ll give you guys the choice. Legends draft. (Only retired players) no era rule just draft any retired player you want.

Or we can do a current players only draft and if you aren’t burned out by then an all time jazz draft.
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Current players next then we could do legends because I think a lot of legends go undrafted here and it would be fun to give them some shine.
 
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