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stitches said:
Lets say his thumb injury didn't heal well and he will need a surgery. Would any team really pass on him because ... he won't be able to play in summer league? IMO the only reason to pass on a player for medical concerns is if this issue is long-term one that will affect his career mid-long term. You are not drafting that player for the next 3-6 months... you are drafting him hopefully for the next 10-15 years...
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I think teams overreact to this stuff... like if Whitehead really goes end of first its crazy to me. There have been examples of even serious red flags like Porter Jr. providing real draft value. There have been guys like Looney that needed a hip surgery that got flagged... prolly a whole bunch more. Just like with Whitehead... the thumb not healing right could tank his value. I think Griffin may have had some flag last year too. I just see it more of an opportunity than a big concern at some point in the draft. With no flags I think Cam is the 4th/5th guy in the draft for me. So 9th works. Whitehead would be late lotto imo without the second surgery... in the 20s its a no brainer. Doesn't always work out but I think it can be overstated.
stitches said:
The problem is not with the teams that actually have his medicals, they can do their own evaluations. But if a team has not received his medicals, it very well might put doubt in their minds and they can use that as tiebreaker with other similarly ranked players.
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This is a valid point here... I can see the rumor being a concern if he is withholding medicals from certain teams.
 
stitches said:
Lets say his thumb injury didn't heal well and he will need a surgery. Would any team really pass on him because ... he won't be able to play in summer league? IMO the only reason to pass on a player for medical concerns is if this issue is long-term one that will affect his career mid-long term. You are not drafting that player for the next 3-6 months... you are drafting him hopefully for the next 10-15 years...

The problem is not with the teams that actually have his medicals, they can do their own evaluations. But if a team has not received his medicals, it very well might put doubt in their minds and they can use that as tiebreaker with other similarly ranked players.
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But if you were trying to put doubt in a team's mind, why would you say yellow flag instead of red flag? Yellow flag is a made up term, but the obvious intention is to say that there's something there but not enough to warrant a red flag. If you were trying to cast doubt in a team's mind you would not try to downplay the injury. If anyone is faking the term "yellow flag" it would be Cam's camp in an attempt to downplay any injury. You guys have it backwards if you think it's fake.

Just think about it. If IND, for example, does not have his medicals....would you try to fake them out by saying there's a serious red flag injury, or would try to fake them out by saying there's a mild injury concern that does not warrant the term "red flag".
 
KqWIN said:
But if you were trying to put doubt in a team's mind, why would you say yellow flag instead of red flag? Yellow flag is a made up term, but the obvious intention is to say that there's something there but not enough to warrant a red flag. If you were trying to cast doubt in a team's mind you would not try to downplay the injury. If anyone is faking the term "yellow flag" it would be Cam's camp in an attempt to downplay any injury. You guys have it backwards if you think it's fake.

Just think about it. If IND, for example, does not have his medicals....would you try to fake them out by saying there's a serious red flag injury, or would try to fake them out by saying there's a mild injury concern that does not warrant the term "red flag".
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Because it's less likely to face pushback, but it would accomplish the same thing if a team doesn't have his medicals... if you are the GM or medical staff of say... the Pacers... and you don't get his medicals... and 2 days before the draft a respected journalist floats not just that there is a "yellow flag" on his medicals, but that teams are actually going to pass on him because of said "yellow flag", then what would you think? Would you care if the report says "yellow" or "red" flag when he seemingly is dropping(4, 5 and 6 pass on him)? How would you know if he's dropping because of said "yellow flag" that others might know details about but you don't or because HOU, Detroit and Orlando just liked purely basketball wise 2 other prospects better?

And now the Pacers pass on him too(because of the yellow flag report that you don't know anything about)... and Washington takes someone else too... Now you are the Jazz and you too don't have his medicals... what would you do? Is he dropping because of a real medical concern or because a 2-3 teams didn't have his medicals and preferred to go safer route?
 
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