5 year old kills 2 year old sister... with a birthday present.

[One Brow]

You have no idea what my point is, don't be a douche. All I was asking for is what you guys thought the solution to the problem should be.

My reply was to Stoked, not you.

I don't think there is a single problem, and certainly don't claim to have the best solution to any problem.

 

[Stoked]

England hasn't devolved into something dictatorial, despite strict gun control for decades. Dictatorships sprang up in France even with well-armed populaces. I don't see a relationship.

Then run an experiment. You live a life free from gun ownership and I will live a life of gun ownership. Then right before we die we can compare notes.

 

[One Brow]

I think it is ineffective with stopping gun violence. For example the background checks that they were voting on would not have stopped the Sandy Hook shooting.

Yes guns are more effecient at killing than knives. Does not mean that knives are not deadly.

On the other hand, background checks could have made a difference in Aurora, IIRC. I agree limited measures will only have limited effectiveness.

 

[One Brow]

Then run an experiment. You live a life free from gun ownership and I will live a life of gun ownership. Then right before we die we can compare notes.

You mean, one of us will be in a more dictatorial country than the other?

 

[scootsy]

My reply was to Stoked, not you.

I don't think there is a single problem, and certainly don't claim to have the best solution to any problem.

Understood, my apologies.

 

[Stoked]

On the other hand, background checks could have made a difference in Aurora, IIRC. I agree limited measures will only have limited effectiveness.

To truly stop gun violence then they will need to remove guns from the populace. That is a non starter as it violates my consitutional rights and would be absolutely disasterous for America.

 

[Stoked]

You mean, one of us will be in a more dictatorial country than the other?

You never know. Maybe the Mormons will rise up, the Indians will take back "their" land or something. Hell in 20 years we could all be speaking Swahili, Chinese or French for all we know.

 

[PearlWatson]

Just curious, what is the solution? Stricter gun control laws, or taking the right to bear arms away altogether? Wasn't the reason we were given the right a form of protection against a standing army? Haven't a hundred or so countries existed under military dictatorships in the last 100 years and this is America's protection against that? Just wondering.

It was a form of protection against other people with guns (criminals) or superior numbers(like when the KKK comes to lynch you), or people who could overpower you physically (woman protecting herself against violence), not just a standing army.

 

[PearlWatson]

Just talking, not spreading anything. Trying to understand why. And maybe one day I will live there who knows? I loved Spokane BTW, looks like nice place to retire. Montana is great too.

You and Stockton could be two old geezurs rocking on the front porch and talking about the good old Sloan days. lolz.

 

[PearlWatson]

Yeah, Pearl likes to keep things civilized when she's talkin' bout God-denying un-American liberal cultists.

Those comments are usually directed @ strangers; it gets a little dicier with friends, but you make a fine point.

 

[scootsy]

It was a form of protection against other people with guns (criminals) or superior numbers(like when the KKK comes to lynch you), or people who could overpower you physically (woman protecting herself against violence), not just a standing army.

Pretty sure that's not what Madison was thinking about when he wrote them...

 

[PearlWatson]

Pretty sure that's not what Madison was thinking about when he wrote them...

I see what you did there, but I'm pretty sure it arose from the God-given right to protect your life/liberty/property no matter the particular circumstances.