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A lottery pick or 45 Wins (play-in team) ?

A lottery pick or 45 Wins (play-in team) ?

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What would you rather have at the end of the season, Jazz fans?

(Reference: Minny had 46 wins last year and were a play-in team)

Edit: I am very aware we also have the Minny pick that could turn into a lottery pick but would you want ANOTHER lottery pick or 45 wins is the question.
 
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Let's get both, and get a lottery pick with Minny's pick. We get 45 wins, play-in to the 8th slot, have a fun first round experience for our new team, AND get the #1 overall courtesy of an imploding Minny team this year. That is the pipe dream of pipe dreams.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Let's get both, and get a lottery pick with Minny's pick. We get 45 wins, play-in to the 8th slot, have a fun first round experience for our new team, AND get the #1 overall courtesy of an imploding Minny team this year. That is the pipe dream of pipe dreams.
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Well we’ll get the Minny pick no doubt.. but if we assume that pick is lottery as well … would you want ANOTHER lottery pick or 45 wins is the question.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Well we’ll get the Minny pick no doubt.. but if we assume that pick is lottery as well … would you want ANOTHER lottery pick or 45 wins is the question.
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I stand by my answer. Give me both. In fact give us a cinderella run to the finals and then the #1 pick. We would be the 80's Lakers who were gifted with Magic Johnson by the league.
 
ONE LOVE said:
What would you rather have at the end of the season, Jazz fans?

(Reference: Minny had 46 wins last year and were a play-in team)
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We’re too good to tank without selling off players we should keep like Lauri, Beasley, Clarkson and Vando.

I’d rather see the Jazz make the playoffs for two reasons.

We’re not getting into the Wemby sweepstakes with our pick at this point, so we might as well figure out who our core is moving forward and devote the season to their development.

Also, I believe strongly that a team builds on playoff experience and a LOT of these guys don’t have any. Let Hardy learn how to manage a series and give guys like Markkanen, Sexton, THT, Vando, Kessler and Agbaji playoff minutes that might pay off down the road.
 
Coach Ellis said:
We’re too good to tank without selling off players we should keep like Lauri, Beasley, Clarkson and Vando.

I’d rather see the Jazz make the playoffs for two reasons.

We’re not getting into the Wemby sweepstakes with our pick at this point, so we might as well figure out who our core is moving forward and devote the season to their development.

Also, I believe strongly that a team builds on playoff experience and a LOT of these guys don’t have any. Let Hardy learn how to manage a series and give guys like Markkanen, Sexton, THT, Vando, Kessler and Agbaji playoff minutes that might pay off down the road.
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Yeah i guess the question is - is the playoffs experience for these guys gonna make this team better next year OR adding ANOTHER lottery type talent to the mix?
 
Chargers Jazz Angels said:
I love to see the jazz win but I also understand a bad year and a good draft pick can really help a team.

Ideally I would want multiple lotto picks.
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I can’t argue with that logic. I think ideally, I’d like to see them win by figuring out their core guys and leaning heavily on them to succeed.

If they do that and end up in the lottery, I’ll have no complaints. If they’re able to sell off veteran guys that they know won’t be the core guys 2 years from now and get additional assets or add a young core player. . . I can live with either result. I just don’t want them to leave things at the status quo and go all in to make the playoffs with the veteran guys instead of the young guys. Jazz did that with Mitchell/Gobert and the result of that was this past offseason.
 
Coach Ellis said:
I can’t argue with that logic. I think ideally, I’d like to see them win by figuring out their core guys and leaning heavily on them to succeed.

If they do that and end up in the lottery, I’ll have no complaints. If they’re able to sell off veteran guys that they know won’t be the core guys 2 years from now and get additional assets or add a young core player. . . I can live with either result. I just don’t want them to leave things at the status quo and go all in to make the playoffs with the veteran guys instead of the young guys. Jazz did that with Mitchell/Gobert and the result of that was this past offseason.
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If you look at the Jazz rotation alot of the players are already 30 or older which the Philadelphia play by play guys also pointed out.
Conley, JC, Olynyk, Gay are all grizzled vets. Beasley and Lauri can be considered vets at this point too.
Even Sexton, Vandy, and THT are now on their 2nd contracts despite their younger age.
Kessler is the only rookie who is showing promise.

Right now they might be considered in a 'rebuild' which would suggest alot of younger players but in actuality this team is winning games on the backs of veterans who won't be playing at this same level in 2 years.
 
Coach Ellis said:
We’re too good to tank without selling off players we should keep like Lauri, Beasley, Clarkson and Vando.

I’d rather see the Jazz make the playoffs for two reasons.

We’re not getting into the Wemby sweepstakes with our pick at this point, so we might as well figure out who our core is moving forward and devote the season to their development.

Also, I believe strongly that a team builds on playoff experience and a LOT of these guys don’t have any. Let Hardy learn how to manage a series and give guys like Markkanen, Sexton, THT, Vando, Kessler and Agbaji playoff minutes that might pay off down the road.
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With as competitive as the league is I don't think you have to actually out right tank to get a top 7 pick. In the west there is only one team that is really bad and that is the rockets. The spurs may end up tanking but they have some really solid players that can keep them afloat if they keep playing them. With the thunder SGA has no interest in outright tanking and I don't think management wants to piss off their superstar. Those are the 3 teams that may be in the conversation. If we have any kind of rocky stretch then it gives Ainge the opportunity to do what he has wanted to do all along and that is continue the teardown. At the very least I would expect from here on out to see Mike sit on one end of back to back and the same may go for Olynyk.
 
I am a little confused by the question the more I think about it.

If the jazz are a play in team and lose wouldnt that still give them a lotto pick. The better question would be do you want them to win their play in game or lose to get a better lotto pick.
 
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Chargers Jazz Angels said:
I am a little confused by the question the more I think about it.

If the jazz are a play in team and lose wouldnt that still give them a lotto pick. The better question would be do you want them to win their play in game or lose to get a better lotto pick.
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Yeah I didn’t think that far but i think most people got the gist of the question..
 
Chargers Jazz Angels said:
I am a little confused by the question the more I think about it.

If the jazz are a play in team and lose wouldnt that still give them a lotto pick. The better question would be do you want them to win their play in game or lose to get a better lotto pick.
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Basically to GUARANTEE a lottery pick you would have to be bad enough to finish outside of the play-in right?

Then a 45 win season get you into the play-in but even if you lose that the pick wouldn’t be as good.. then there’s the chance you win the play-in and forfeit the lottery..

Those are basically your 2 options for the vote..

Hope that helps..
 
I'd rather just make the playoffs vs the 12th pick. But if we can get into the bottom 8 I'd rather do that.

Just got to find someone to take Conley from us and play Sexton 35 mpg. He would be the ultimate tank commander
 
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