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Aaron Gordon....Are you serious? Disaster.....Disaster.....

Revolution 9 said:
Gordon is a risk. He's no sure thing. It just shows you how ****ed we are being outside the top 3.

We have to now take a huge risk. We have the go with one of the guys that has star (albeit long shot) potential.
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I still have faith that we are going to trade up.
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Parker or Gordon. That's pretty much where I'm at right now. I think that Wiggins and Embiid are going 1 and 2. I'm not sure if Philly loves Parker. Maybe they do. . . but if they don't, then they might be willing to trade back two spots for a windfall. If they don't, then you take Gordon and work your *** off to turn him into the best possible version of himself. I love his attitude, his fire and his work ethic. I think that he can become one of the top 3 players from this draft. His offense is a huge red flag, but I still like him better than Exum, Vonleh, Smart and Randle - all of whom have huge red flags as well.

This draft is ALL about potential. Those who live up to it will be Superstars. There's about 10-12 who could potentially end up in that range, but history suggests that more than half of them will be average at best or flame out completely. It's pretty hit and miss to tell which 18-19 year old prospects will continue to grow and improve at the NBA level. All things considered, I like the chances for Parker and Gordon to improve the most. If they can't get Parker, then they need to sit tight and draft the best player who falls to them.
 
Well, Yamers and I finally agree on something. Aaron Gordon is the one guy I don't want us to draft - he has the biggest bust potential.
 
Karl Malone will be there to help Gordon improve his free throws. Gordon will start talking to himself at the line.
 
Revolution 9 said:
Gordon is a risk. He's no sure thing. It just shows you how ****ed we are being outside the top 3.

We have to now take a huge risk. We have the go with one of the guys that has star (albeit long shot) potential.
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Wiggins is a risk. Embiid is a risk. Heck, even Jabari is a risk because of his defense.
 
Core4 said:
Wiggins is a risk. Embiid is a risk. Heck, even Jabari is a risk because of his defense.
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This.

Every single one of these guys has major red flags. The potential is amazing, but there's risk associated with each and every single player this year. And it's so hard to predict which 18-20 year old players will actually make the jump to the next level. There's so many factors that can cause them to fail or succeed. We won't know for years which guys will actually live up to the hype, but history suggests that at least half of the top picks won't work out the way they're being projected.

Part of the problem is that expectations have gotten so high for these guys. It's highly likely that Wiggins isn't the next LeBron, Embiid isn't going to become Hakeem, Parker won't be the next 'Melo, Exum won't be the next Kobe, Vonleh won't be as good as Bosh and Gordon won't become Scottie Pippen.

That's who these guys are being compared to. The potential for greatness is there for all of them. It's going to come down to which players work hard, continue to develop their bodies and their games, who ends up drafting them and how they fit in with their new teams and coaches. All I want is for the Jazz to identify who has the greatest potential for them and DRAFT HIM. Regardless of who might currently be playing his same position or not, I want the best players possible. You should always acquire the best players you can to build around and then figure out how to make all of the pieces fit together. That's why it's important to have a good GM and a good coach.
 
I was initially down on Gordon too. But I'm not so sure anymore. There's so much to like about him. I couldn't believe people were pimping him at first but now I'm getting sweet on him.

His shot is the concern. The only concern. But it's a big factor. But will he work on it? I'm confident he will. I have more confidence in Gordon's basketball mind than AK's. And AK was very good at a lot of things. He just needed a better outside shot - which he worked on, but it never really struck fear into opposing defenses.

Tweeners are difficult, but Gordon seems like a smart, great kid. I'm impressed with him. I just hope he can play the 3.
 
BENTLEY said:
I was initially down on Gordon too. But I'm not so sure anymore. There's so much to like about him. I couldn't believe people were pimping him at first but now I'm getting sweet on him.

His shot is the concern. The only concern. But it's a big factor. But will he work on it? I'm confident he will. I have more confidence in Gordon's basketball mind than AK's. And AK was very good at a lot of things. He just needed a better outside shot - which he worked on, but it never really struck fear into opposing defenses.

Tweeners are difficult, but Gordon seems like a smart, great kid. I'm impressed with him. I just hope he can play the 3.
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If he becomes a good 3 pt shooter, then he is a 3.
 
Qman said:
If he becomes a good 3 pt shooter, then he is a 3.
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Who was S. Marion? 3 or 4? Or it did not matter because he was still All star and very useful for the teams he played? Gordon is already better passer than Marion ever was and all signs pointing to him being able to rebound and defend at Marion's level as well. Only FT need to improve.
 
cowhide said:
The Bulls were stacked when Pippen came aboard. What does that have to do with his shooting FTs? Pippen was 22 years old as a rookie. So Gordon has 4 years to improve to 57% (for the record Gordon shot 42 %) which is what he shot as a rookie. I certainly think he can do that and more. Gordon works his butt off and his workouts have only shown how much he has improved his shooting. All reports from his workout with the Jazz is he shot the ball really well in his workout better than expected.
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When I did shoot around before my games, I'd always put on a show from the 3 point line, doesn't mean I'm a great or even decent shooter, because in games I couldn't make them consistently. Just because Gordon is hitting shots in workouts doesn't mean he's all of a sudden improved greatly or even minimal.


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AKMVP said:
Who was S. Marion? 3 or 4? Or it did not matter because he was still All star and very useful for the teams he played? Gordon is already better passer than Marion ever was and all signs pointing to him being able to rebound and defend at Marion's level as well. Only FT need to improve.
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marion was a 3 most of his career imo
 
yamers said:
news flash....Gordon will never learn to shoot.
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This is a stupid statement. To say Gordon won't improve is ridiculous. He'll never be Ray Allen, but if LBJ can can improve and be a good shooter so can Gordon.



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Gordon will get better at shooting... he'll never be Kyle Korver though. Gordon is a hard worker and an a**-kicker. He knows what he is good at and does that well. If Exum is off the board I am all in on Gordon.

I think he can play both forward positions and create mismatches. He will be able to defend most threes and fours. He is different than a tweener like Derrick Williams who can't defend either. I think his best position in the pros will be as a 4, but will be able to play some 3 if you have a shooter at the 4 or 5 to stretch the floor. I don't think you want him playing 30+ minutes at the 3.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Gordon will get better at shooting... he'll never be Kyle Korver though. Gordon is a hard worker and an a**-kicker. He knows what he is good at and does that well. If Exum is off the board I am all in on Gordon.

I think he can play both forward positions and create mismatches. He will be able to defend most threes and fours. He is different than a tweener like Derrick Williams who can't defend either. I think his best position in the pros will be as a 4, but will be able to play some 3 if you have a shooter at the 4 or 5 to stretch the floor. I don't think you want him playing 30+ minutes at the 3.
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Exactly why can Gordon guard 4's and DW can't? As far as Gordon goes I chastised yamyam for saying Gordon wouldn't improve his shot, but at the same time it doesn't mean Gordon will just because of high character and being a hard worker. I remember MKG being as highly thought of and having the same character strengths, and MKG has shown little improvement. Not saying he won't, I hope he does improve, but I'm, not counting on it and the rest of you shouldn't either.


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Thee jazz fan said:
Exactly why can Gordon guard 4's and DW can't? As far as Gordon goes I chastised yamyam for saying Gordon wouldn't improve his shot, but at the same time it doesn't mean Gordon will just because of high character and being a hard worker. I remember MKG being as highly thought of and having the same character strengths, and MKG has shown little improvement. Not saying he won't, I hope he does improve, but I'm, not counting on it and the rest of you shouldn't either.


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Because Gordon is much more athletic than D Will and actually cares about defense. D Will can jump, but his lateral movement is terrible and he's not strong enough to guard most 4s. Gordon will struggle against the bigger 4s.

MKG is not a great comp... he can only play the 3 and his shot is beyond broken. If Gordon was only going to be able to play the 3 I wouldn't be so high on him. I just think the downside of Gordon is less than guys like Vonleh (although I like him a lot too) and Smart. If he doesn't become a good shooter, then I think he is Shawn Marion. If he becomes a good shooter I think he'll be one 2 or 3 best players in this draft.
 
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