Ace Bailey ROY watch

[KqWIN]

Lol.

You are talking regress vs progress here. Its not the same discussion as progress vs progress.

If Key improved his rebounding by +1 RPG Id be equally or even more excited than if Collier did that.

I'm talking about what gets people excited or concerned about a player. That's all relative to how they view the player in the first place.

 

[KqWIN]

FWIW, I wasn't replying to anyone in particular with that post, and it wasn't even necessarily supposed to be Ace specific. I was just challenging my assumptions and seeing if I could find data to support a hypothesis.

Also, I absolutely agree that I would have preferred to use FTR, but I couldn't find it on NBA.com where it is extremely easy to sort by experience/etc.

I was just clarifying that my concern with Ace's FTr is not a concern with it not being able to improve. The starting point is just so low.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I have higher hopes than that for him. I would say that should be his floor.

I agree. I was elated we got him because I think/thought the sky was the limit. And, sunk cost fallacy; we put ourselves through hell tanking and right now he looks like the only hope that all of the tanking to this point might yield anything of any value.

 

[jazznik]

This board is weird at times. People are hyping Cody for few random dunks and concerned about Ace for his low FTR.

Meanwhile:

Cody is being dragged down by his truly horrific start to the season. Their stats for the last month are much more comparable and better reflect who they are at the moment. Ace is still markedly better on the offense, no questions about it. On defense Cody currently is much better than Ace, though.

 

[framer]

What do you mean by nukes the efficiency? 50/37 isn’t bad at all for a rookie.

50 and 37 is outfreakingstanding for a rookie that regularly shoots outside of 4 feet.

 

[KqWIN]

A good way to avoid the FT problem is to act like FTA don't exist lol.

 

[framer]

Ace is the 54th among all rookies in the FTA per 36 at 1.3. And I am sure that some other rookies have similar roles to Bailey. Also, there is no other stat where Ace is THAT low (steals, rebounds, assists, blocks)...

The only recent Jazz rookie who had a (barely) lower rate of FT was Hendricks at 1.2. Even Cody in his rookie year shot free throws more frequently...

What is the mean for all rookies per 36?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This is a dumb thing to focus on since he is a 19yr old kid who lacks strength. Give him a couple offseasons to focus on getting stronger before being concerned about his free throw rate.

Good lord shutup. Its not a dumb thing to focus on when he's statsically one of the worst players at it in recent history at it. I get your schtick is you throat any young player, but get a grip.