I've watched AK plenty and he does play well in Euro ball because it suits his style more. You don't have to be as strong in Euro ball as you do in the NBA. AK biggest problem in the NBA is he is too weak and he can't consistently shoot from outside or create his own shot. So all you homers can try to compare an apple to an orange but the apple is still an apple.
AK and Russian team
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GVC
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They?
//r00t 4 Jazz
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Hey this argument sounds familiar with both sides going to each extreme that is not the truth but they firmly believe it is behind the emotion/hate they have for each or for certain player(s) or coaches or contract amounts or salary constraints put on the Jazz' cap number.
I'll just take that both sides are right and only respond by saying boy Glass if what you say is true then the Jazz are the worst defensive team since AK's been on this team as he has been the best defensive player on the Jazz and no it isn't really that close.
I'll just take that both sides are right and only respond by saying boy Glass if what you say is true then the Jazz are the worst defensive team since AK's been on this team as he has been the best defensive player on the Jazz and no it isn't really that close.
MVP
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Yea AK had nothing to do with his performance in the NBA. How about the fact that he didn't work on his game? Besides the fact that Euro ball is NOT the NBA. The NBA is the top league in the world and AK is not one of the better players. He is a role player in the NBA and he could have been an All-starif he actually worked at it. You cannot compare the leagues because they are different in too many ways.
He was an All-Star, all defensive team member, and led league in blocks twice ( once in total, once in average ). Answer me this - who was AK on 2003-2006 Jazz teams? Role player or a team leader?
GVC
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Those teams combined for a 109-137 record.
GVC
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There are a few obvious problems/omissions with/from this post. I'll let you find them.
Edit: Never mind, here they are:
1. Boozer also missed 31 games that year.
2. The Jazz were 15-26 when AK played that season (has a 30 win team ever made the playoffs?).
3. That was not the worst record in team history.
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After his contract year performance of a career-low in PER, barely scraping above his abysmal '06-'07 campaign in win-shares, only getting older and more set in his ways, THIS is going to be the time when AK shows us. It was all Deron's fault. And Sloan's. And Boozer's. And... wait... they're all gone and AK didn't suddenly burst forth like a flaming butterfly holding excalibur and reclaim his rightful place as the best player on earth?
Anyway, re-sign him. He sticks around after practice and doesn't pout. Or... maybe it's the total opposite. I forget.
Anyway, re-sign him. He sticks around after practice and doesn't pout. Or... maybe it's the total opposite. I forget.
//r00t 4 Jazz
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That's the thing IMO the people wanting to resign him don't expect him to turn any corner or do anything different then what he has it will just come at a much cheaper price.
The excuses are that people expected AK to be a superstar commensurate with that contract and when he wasn't, they moaned. To make matters worse, you have a coach who doesn't use him properly and a guy coming in, DWill, who wants to be the man diminishing AK's contributions. And an anti-AK type of player in Boozer, who cares only about his stats and not the team. So what do you get, a bad situation for AK, whose game is all about the team. Too bad, they just didn't trade him before DWill's second season. They could've gotten good value and AK could've gone to a team that was better suited for his style of play.
Remember when the team went down the ****ter when team-hero AK got ousted from his rightful throne and selfish jerks Sloan, Deron, and Boozer improved the Jazz's record and presence in the league immensely?
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Wait...
Anyway, AK is the best. Or was the best. Depending on the timeframe and the context of the argument. Or whatever.
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Wait...
Anyway, AK is the best. Or was the best. Depending on the timeframe and the context of the argument. Or whatever.
If you have been reading the comments and watching the Russian team, you will see that we are not saying that AK is a superstar, but that he is a super role player if used properly. When everyone left, AK was already done for the season because of compounding injuries. That is not to say he would have exploded in any case. He is not that kind of player.
GVC
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eh? I could have sworn AK played 14 games, putting up virtually identical numbers, after the Deron trade.
As someone who generally defends AK- and wouldn't mind him back on a 2 year deal at a reasonable amount (or a reasonable, front-loaded 3 year deal)- it pains me to read your whiny half truths.
Jesus.