Anti-THC publicity Stunt, or Satanic Possession?

[idestroyedthetoilet]

Well those drugs aren't legal silly.

Spice was legal. Weed wasn't. Spice was created because people wanted to smoke weed but couldn't due to work drug tests, parole drugs tests, not wanting to buy from a drug dealer etc.

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I haven't read why the inventor decided to alter a psychoactive compound. I imagine the inventor knew he could replace a side group with another and see what happened. Happens all the time in the drug creation industry.

 

[fishonjazz]

But spice is nothing like weed. It is not a weed substitute in any real sense. It's a powerful hallucinogenic.

It's totally marketed as a weed alternative. I used it a lot because my job drug tests and I could get it at the gas station near my house.. It's not a powerful hallucinogenic. It's a high similar to weed with a large increase in paranoia. At least that how it effected me and others I smoked it with. I smoked it with a couple of guys out in a boat in strawberry reservoir who had never smoked weed before. We were all fine. Had a pretty good time. If I had given those guys lsd or shrooms or something they would have freaked the **** out. Spice ain't lsd, shrooms, pcp, etc. It looks like weed too. For a reason.

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[idestroyedthetoilet]

But spice is nothing like weed. It is not a weed substitute in any real sense. It's a powerful hallucinogenic.

Yes, and there are other drugs invented to attach to the cannabinoid receptors to influence other very important pathways. Was their invention with the intention of creating a synthetic thc replacement?

Spice was probably an experiment that didnt turn out as a medically useful product for a pharma company.

 

[fishonjazz]

Do those other drugs look like weed? Can I buy them at the gas station?

I mean the Google is all right there for us to use.

Spice, also known as synthetic marijuana or "K2" is a commercially available product that is artificially coated with synthetic cannabinoids, and produces markedly different long-term effects than marijuana.

As marijuana occupies a hazy legal status--being legal in some states and illegal in many others--Spice is considered a "legal" alternative to marijuana.


Marijuana devotees turn to Spice or K2 in an effort to avoid addiction, legal issues, and positive drugs tests. These drugs are readily available everywhere from smoke shops to convenience stores.

I mean hell, it's referred to synthetic marijuana.

Why just call it synthetic drugs. Or K2 or spice? Why would it be referred to as synthetic marijuana if it wasn't made to be a legal alternative to marijuana?

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[fishonjazz]

Synthetic marijuana is often sought for the following effects, which mimic those of natural marijuana:

Euphoric feelings.

Altered perception.

Feelings of relaxation



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[Gameface]

Synthetic marijuana is often sought for the following effects, which mimic those of natural marijuana:

Euphoric feelings.

Altered perception.

Feelings of relaxation



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But it doesn't do those things so much as it gives you crazy *** powerful hallucinations.

I only know what I've read about spice as I'd never in 1,000,000 years mess with that ****, but it is far more powerful and far more dangerous than weed. It doesn't have the same sort of giggly type high, or relaxation effects at all from what I've read, it makes you trip balls.

 

[Gameface]

And I get that it is called a weed substitute or synthetic weed, but then again NAZI stands for National Socialist, so they were obviously far left leaning liberal democrats and not a right wing authoritarian state.

 

[fishonjazz]

But it doesn't do those things so much as it gives you crazy *** powerful hallucinations.

I only know what I've read about spice as I'd never in 1,000,000 years mess with that ****, but it is far more powerful and far more dangerous than weed. It doesn't have the same sort of giggly type high, or relaxation effects at all from what I've read, it makes you trip balls.

But you are wrong though. I have used it a bunch and never hallucinated. I got hella paranoid before and my heart beat like crazy before. Also had times where it just felt like I had smoked some weed and nothing more.
People who want to hallucinate and "trip" buy shrooms/acid/pcp/meth
And the point is why does it exist? Why do people buy it? It looks like weed, is intended to give a similar high as weed, it's called synthetic marijuana, you put it in a pipe or bong or joint and light it on fire, and it was legal (don't know if it still is tbh). Now reading that, who do you think would be the people who might want to buy it and use it? Maybe the same people who want to smoke pot but can't for various reasons?

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[fishonjazz]

And I get that it is called a weed substitute or synthetic weed, but then again NAZI stands for National Socialist, so they were obviously far left leaning liberal democrats and not a right wing authoritarian state.

This would be a good point if spice and marijuana were similar in name only.
It ain't just the name that is similar to weed bro.

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[fishonjazz]

I think I'm being trolled.
I KNOW I'm wasting my time though.

I'm done

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[Gameface]

This would be a good point if spice and marijuana were similar in name only.
It ain't just the name that is similar to weed bro.

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Well, like I said, I've never used it because I've heard it can cause very serious hallucinations. If you have first hand knowledge then inform me. Does it cause hallucinations? I've never had a hallucination smoking weed. Does it otherwise resemble being high on weed? From what I've heard it doesn't, but if you tell me it does then I would 100% take your word for it over random **** I've read.

 

[fishonjazz]

Well, like I said, I've never used it because I've heard it can cause very serious hallucinations. If you have first hand knowledge then inform me. Does it cause hallucinations? I've never had a hallucination smoking weed. Does it otherwise resemble being high on weed? From what I've heard it doesn't, but if you tell me it does then I would 100% take your word for it over random **** I've read.

I believe it can cause hallucinations. I don't believe that is the intention of it though and not the reason people buy it or use. Quite the contrary. Due to the negative effects that are unlike weed people often choose not to use it, since they are looking for a weed like high, and simply risk drug tests and arrests and use mj instead or, like me, just don't use anything.

There is a reason that they spray chemicals on something that closely resembles weed and give it individual names similar to weed (purple Kush and the like).

They could spray those chemicals on anything but they spray them on a weed like material for a reason.

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[Gameface]

I believe it can cause hallucinations. I don't believe that is the intention of it though and not the reason people buy it or use. Quite the contrary. Due to the negative effects that are unlike weed people often choose not to use it, since they are looking for a weed like high, and simply risk drug tests and arrests and use mj instead or, like me, just don't use anything.

There is a reason that they spray chemicals on something that closely resembles weed and give it individual names similar to weed (purple Kush and the like).

They could spray those chemicals on anything but they spray them on a weed like material for a reason.

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I know they do and that they sell it for the reasons you have been saying. I get that.

 

[Alfalfa]

I used Spice once a few years ago. Hallucinated worse than when I'm on acid (which does not really cause you to hallucinate). Thought I was gonna die. Worst 4 hours of my life.

 

[Ron Mexico]

It's totally marketed as a weed alternative. I used it a lot because my job drug tests and I could get it at the gas station near my house.. It's not a powerful hallucinogenic. It's a high similar to weed with a large increase in paranoia. At least that how it effected me and others I smoked it with. I smoked it with a couple of guys out in a boat in strawberry reservoir who had never smoked weed before. We were all fine. Had a pretty good time. If I had given those guys lsd or shrooms or something they would have freaked the **** out. Spice ain't lsd, shrooms, pcp, etc. It looks like weed too. For a reason.

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The problem with it is that its not the same thing when you buy it. They have identified 100s of different types of the synthetic cannabinoids in these things. So what happened to you could be wildly different for someone else. I tried it a really long time ago and it had 0 effect on me. Others have overdosed on 1 hit and had really bad experiences. Others have had a good time and felt just like getting high.

 

[fishonjazz]

I used Spice once a few years ago. Hallucinated worse than when I'm on acid (which does not really cause you to hallucinate). Thought I was gonna die. Worst 4 hours of my life.

Lol at the "acid doesn't cause you to hallucinate" comment.

I was doing acid out in the desert in dougway and saw a tree follow my friend after he finished peeing and started walking away.

I had everything I looked at be in cartoon form.

Walls breathing

Roads moving like waves

Tracers

Had Mario (from the video games) jump out of the TV and come at me.

Had a giant rabbit come up out of the carpet.

I could go on and on. I have done probably around 200 hits of acid. Smoked spice probably 30 or 40 times.

Spice can be different from batch to batch though. No consistency with it so I believe you that you hallucinated while using spice. I never did though. Hallucinated a bunch of times from acid though (also from shrooms, and meth after being awake for 50 something hours)

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[fishonjazz]

The problem with it is that its not the same thing when you buy it. They have identified 100s of different types of the synthetic cannabinoids in these things. So what happened to you could be wildly different for someone else. I tried it a really long time ago and it had 0 effect on me. Others have overdosed on 1 hit and had really bad experiences. Others have had a good time and felt just like getting high.

Agree %100. Haven't argued against that point.

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[Gameface]

I think there is a similar issue with acid and spice, as acid it is not always LSD exactly. A lot of it is homemade from what I understand. And when I say that I mean, that's how I understood it 25 years ago when I was concerned with such things.

 

[fishonjazz]

I think there is a similar issue with acid and spice, as acid it is not always LSD exactly. A lot of it is homemade from what I understand. And when I say that I mean, that's how I understood it 25 years ago when I was concerned with such things.

Yes with both things you can't have any confidence in what you are getting.

I have had acid that did almost nothing and had acid that 1 hit was too much.

Had a friend one time that put 3 hits of acid in his mouth and one in each eye. He got so ****ed up. Had red squares burned into the whites of each eye. Crazy ****er.
Had 2 other buddies split a half sheet of acid (50 hits) one time. One of them ended up getting the police called on him and he beat a cop with a telephone and ended up in the psyche Ward for about 3 months. (He died really young from pian pill methadone combination overdose, RIP)
I remember being at a party where there was a sheet of acid being passed around and people were just biting chunks off and passing it.

Those were crazy days. I was like 17-19 during the time when I was using acid heavily. Probably about once per week on average.

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[Ron Mexico]

I think there is a similar issue with acid and spice, as acid it is not always LSD exactly. A lot of it is homemade from what I understand. And when I say that I mean, that's how I understood it 25 years ago when I was concerned with such things.

LSD is one of the more safe drugs you can take. You might have a "bad trip" but from a health standpoint its almost impossible to overdose unless you are taking an extreme amount of it (like 40+hits at once). It has no toxic effect on you short term or long term. Many recent studies have shown there is no link between LSD and having any mental health issues.

LSD is also one of the most reliable drugs as far as a getting it pure. If it has other stuff added in then it wont stick to the inkblots that are typically used with LSD. It is very rare to get LSD that isnt just LSD.

I think LSD has more misinformation about it than any other drug. There are so many rumors about it. The silly statements like if you do 7 hits of it you will be mentally insane, flashbacks to it later, or that its a sketchy drug because its cut with something bad or the wrong form of it.

Its also really easy to not have a bad trip on it. You just have to have some prep. Do it in a good situation with people who can help you out. If things start to go towards a bad trip, change environments, music, room, lighting, company or whatever and it will easily change to a good trip.

Drugs like MDMA that are generally pretty safe but are often hard to find pure versions are the ones to be more worried about getting a good one. Or cocaine that is generally not good for you at all and more than likely cut with something else bad for you.