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Are the Jazz going to trade Rudy?

Jazz4ever said:
And this is the classic example of why team's without top 10 players have tiny little championship windows. Rudy at 35% of the cap is winning nothing championship wise.
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Paying 30 vs. 35% of the cap will not make a difference.
 
LoPo said:
I'm not advocating for losing Rudy for nothing. I'm advocating for a trade if he wants anything near supermax.
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Some people seem to be discounting this scenario out of hand when there is probably some truth to the rumors. I watched the Clippers feed for the game on Thursday and it was reported by Brian Sieman, the play by play announcer, that Gobert had been offered the max but was holding out for the supermax. As much as I respect Rudy and what he brings to the Jazz, I personally don't believe that he's worth the supermax. With a small market team like the Jazz, I'd have a hard enough time giving that kind of money to a Giannis, let alone Gobert.

I always liked a Gobert for Steven Adams trade scenario, but that ship has sailed now (17.5 a year, the Pels got over!) I don't think there's comparable value out there and the list of teams that have that kind of cap space is small. Considering the uncertain times we find ourselves in, I'm not sure how many teams would be willing or have the capacity to offer him that kind of money. And finding a potential match is also difficult. As much as it hurts to lose him for nothing, we may have to play the waiting game. Thank God we drafted Azubuike, who looks to have some potential and more importantly, got Favors back!

The best deal I could see that works and "could" induce benefit for both teams would be Gobert and Morgan for Aaron Gordon and Jonathan Isaac. I considered Vucevic but there goes our rim protection and I think Bamba would be a nonstarter from their perspective. Another intriguing trade scenario from my perspective would be Gobert and Morgan for Julius Randle and Mitchell Robinson. Both of these deals work in the trade machine by the way. This Knicks deal would give us +7 wins according to the machine and shed about 8 mil this year as well as the money we'd save on the new contract. As they covet a big name "Franchise Player" and lack a strong center, I'm sure they'd bite as well!
 
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Release the Kraken said:
Some people seem to be discounting this scenario out of hand when there is probably some truth to the rumors. I watched the Clippers feed for the game on Thursday and it was reported by Brian Sieman, the play by play announcer, that Gobert had been offered the max but was holding out for the supermax. As much as I respect Rudy and what he brings to the Jazz, I personally don't believe that he's worth the supermax. With a small market team like the Jazz, I'd have a hard enough time giving that kind of money to a Giannis, let alone Gobert.

I always liked a Gobert for Steven Adams trade scenario, but that ship has sailed now (17.5 a year, the Pels got over!) I don't think there's comparable value out there and the list of teams that have that kind of cap space is small. Considering the uncertain times we find ourselves in, I'm not sure how many teams would be willing or have the capacity to offer him that kind of money. And finding a potential match is also difficult. As much as it hurts to lose him for nothing, we may have to play the waiting game. Thank God we drafted Azubuike, who looks to have some potential and more importantly, got Favors back!

The best deal I could see that works and "could" induce benefit for both teams would be Gobert and Morgan for Aaron Gordon and Jonathan Isaac. I considered Vucevic but there goes our rim protection and I think Bamba would be a nonstarter from their perspective. Another intriguing trade scenario from my perspective would be Gobert and Morgan for Julius Randle and Mitchell Robinson. Both of these deals work in the trade machine by the way. This Knicks deal would give us +7 wins according to the machine and shed about 8 mil this year as well as the money we'd save on the new contract. As they covet a big name "Franchise Player" and lack a strong center, I'm sure they'd bite as well!
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So do you think Mr Sieman was reporting what a Rudy wants from his inside source or just regurgitating the same false report we all heard... I’m guessing the play by play announcer for the clippers has exactly zero inside sources.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So do you think Mr Sieman was reporting what a Rudy wants from his inside source or just regurgitating the same false report we all heard... I’m guessing the play by play announcer for the clippers has exactly zero inside sources.
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6:15 on a Saturday. Go to bed.
 
One Brow said:
Paying 30 vs. 35% of the cap will not make a difference.
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Not this year, in upcoming years it could prevent the Jazz from landing a key free agent. For instance Bogey wouldn't have signed for 15m a year. Clarkson wouldn't have signed for 8 million a year. Ingles isn't going to last much longer, we'll need money. At some point you have to draw the line, with Favors on board at an awesome contract and Udoka waiting in the wings its 30% for me.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Not this year, in upcoming years it could prevent the Jazz from landing a key free agent. For instance Bogey wouldn't have signed for 15m a year. Clarkson wouldn't have signed for 8 million a year. Ingles isn't going to last much longer, we'll need money. At some point you have to draw the line, with Favors on board at an awesome contract and Udoka waiting in the wings its 30% for me.
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We got Bogdanovic because we were under the cap. We signed Clarkson with Bird rights. We will be over the cap regardless.
 
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