Baton Rouge Police Killing a 37-year-old black man at point blank range

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Of course, but the poor black areas of cities usually have very negative relations with cops that have heavy disrespect on both sides. I think cops should take more responsibility for fostering positive interactions within their communities.

I absolutely agree. Outreach, community service, publicly available to shoot the breeze for 5 minutes, approachable appearance (take off sunglasses and the like), be more representative of the local communities they serve, school programs, feeding the homeless programs...

But it also works in the reverse. it has become way to popular to demonize all police. Foolish at best.

 

[Deleted member 365]

The median cop salary is 52K a year, I looked it up.

Which is between $7-9k below the median Utah salary.

So thanks for strengthening my point.

 

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Yeah but you know cops are POS who abuse power. You refuse to do something they ask (even though it's part of your lawful right) they will keep pushing and threaten you and make you feel like you have no choice.

I agree that they frequently present requests as commands and get pissy when you don't do what they want you to do.

 

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Which is between $7-9k below the median Utah salary.

So thanks for strengthening my point.

So an NBA player making 25M/year makes as much as 480 police officers

 

[Deleted member 365]

This is what the SLPD's salary schedule looks like (keep in mind, this is their gross pay:

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Gee why aren't people just running to deal with the **** cops do for $18-20 bucks per hour...

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Which is between $7-9k below the median Utah salary.

So thanks for strengthening my point.

You sure, I did a quick google search and the median household income is 60K, so I find it hard to believe that the median income for a single person is 60K.

 

[Deleted member 365]

So an NBA player making 25M/year makes as much as 480 police officers

Yeah. Just about.

Listen, I'm not advocating for elementary school teachers to be laid like world class entertainers or incredible doctors.

However, most industrialized nations compensate their law enforcement and educators fairly. Knowing that their very economy and democracy is dependent upon honest and qualified law enforcers and educators who are competent in teaching know their stuff.

Again, I speak from personal experience here.

Teachers are over burdened and burning out. Those smart enough to leave or go into admin are doing so. Students in college are avoiding the profession like the plague. Those staying in the profession or going into it literally cannot do anything else.

From my two friends (one is in the national guard at camp Williams) and the other is in law enforcement, the same thing is happening to them. The only people going into law enforcement or staying in it are those who cannot do anything else.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/utah/

per capita income was 25K in 2014.

 

[Deleted member 365]

You sure, I did a quick google search and the median household income is 60K, so I find it hard to believe that the median income for a single person is 60K.

Don't Simple economics come into play here?

If you're suffering from a shortwte in both quality and quantity, isn't the obvious solution to make the job more attractive? What's the #1 factor in making a job attractive? I'm being serious now. People have mouths to feed and mortgages to pay.

 

[Deleted member 365]

https://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/utah/

per capita income was 25K in 2014.

That's not an apples to apples comparison. You don't get a teaching job or a police job simply by walking in and filling out an application like you do at Walmart or the millions of call centers in draper or Lehi. Typically, teachers and officers in Utah are required to have diplomas and certifications/training/licenses. Im sure there are alt routes. But for the most part it's a bachelor's and teaching license.

Hence, why a more accurate comparison would be comparing teacher/police officer salaries with those with bachelor's. Again, avg starting teaching salary is about $30k per year. Very comparable to that of police officers.

Avg starting salary with the same level of education is $45k in Utah. So educators and police officers start out making $10-15k less.

 

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Of course, but the poor black areas of cities usually have very negative relations with cops that have heavy disrespect on both sides. I think cops should take more responsibility for fostering positive interactions within their communities.

Agreed. I've never said cops are not to blame. Of course there are douche nugget cops. Both sides need to improve the relationship.

 

[Boris]

Don't Simple economics come into play here?

If you're suffering from a shortwte in both quality and quantity, isn't the obvious solution to make the job more attractive? What's the #1 factor in making a job attractive? I'm being serious now. People have mouths to feed and mortgages to pay.

Actually, simple economics states that your whiny liberal cry baby attitude will cure itself.

Look, I am sorry really really sorry you do not make a million dollars per year doing something that 50% of the population would love to do. Teacher shortage you say? Burned out wimps? Good! Let only those with true passion emerge. Then an only then will we discuss pay rises. Until then let us let the rot weed itself out of are schools.