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The vote is pretty much deadlocked right now.

Leading up to this I pretty much expected the UK to stay but right now it's looking like it could go either way.

What do you guys think? Does this even matter?
 
sort of makes me sad - it looks like the vote to exit has prevailed

seems like a blow towards globalization and a step towards isolationism

not to mention a tanking stock market for the next couple of weeks
 
sort of makes me sad - it looks like the vote to exit has prevailed

seems like a blow towards globalization and a step towards isolationism

not to mention a tanking stock market for the next couple of weeks

Well get use to it cause when The Donald defeats Billary he will exit us out of every stupid world trade treaty that took are jobs. Mexico an China are targets one an two. We will cripple the both into submission like a abused dog!
 
Awesome result for the Brits. Sovereignty is a beautiful thing. Though it sounds like they have years of bureaucratic process still to go through before it's an actual reality. But good start nonetheless. Hopefully more countries follow. Nobody needs these supranational institutions lording over them.
 
what sucks about Brexit (among other things) is the fact that one of its (if not THE) main driving forces was bigotry.
 
what sucks about Brexit (among other things) is the fact that one of its (if not THE) main driving forces was bigotry.
Do you think it's bigoted of a healthy country to choose not to pay for unhealthy countries in a socialized system? Economic failure seems to be an inevitable destination of socialist governments because eventually there aren't enough people left paying the bills. How many times do we need to see this cycle play out before we're going to recognize that socialism doesn't work?
 
what sucks about Brexit (among other things) is the fact that one of its (if not THE) main driving forces was bigotry.

bigotry cuts both ways. People can be bigots who completely disregard the opinions and beliefs and decisions of others, say, like calling people who vote for national independence from a corrupt phony supergovernment scheme that is essentially run by fascist corporate stooges "bigots".

ah, but who will even understand that sentence. It's usually useless talking to morons. Almost as useless as being one. lol
 
I think I'll start saving up for my UK trip. I've wanted to visit for a long time, maybe this will bring prices down enough to make it affordable.
 
sort of makes me sad - it looks like the vote to exit has prevailed

seems like a blow towards globalization and a step towards isolationism

not to mention a tanking stock market for the next couple of weeks

The picture of a dichotomy with globalization on one side and isolationism on the other is a false picture.

depends on some of the relevant arrangements of the "globalization" and the "isolationism".

When the "globalism" is not a democratic form of government, but a collection of managers selected by a hodge-podge of special interests, and there are no identified "inalienable human rights" but instead of list of limited state-given "privileges", and when very very wealthy elites hold all the levers of real power, what you are losing is actually a totalitarian fascism with more ambitions for unrestrained power than any dictatorship the world has ever known.

However, it will take Parliament and many bureaucratic specific actions to make the vote meaningful. I doubt the political establishment will act on the vote.

On the "isolationism" side, I'm pretty sure the Brits are still pretty cosmopolitan, with losts of interests in the world beyond their borders or their empire. Their decision is simple to leave the European Union, which happens to be particularly and painfully inept and worthless beyond belief, besides being abysmally corrupt.

This vote is a popular referendum on the British corollary to the US Council of Foreign Relations.

Here in the United States, this election is shaping up as a popular referendum on the US Council of Foreign Relations and the progressive agenda embraced by the United Nations. A pretty steep battle for the "isolationists" who believe in broad principles of human rights that demand limitations on governmental powers.
 
I think I'll start saving up for my UK trip. I've wanted to visit for a long time, maybe this will bring prices down enough to make it affordable.

I expect the British Pound to become much stronger. Go sooner than later.
 
bigotry cuts both ways. People can be bigots who completely disregard the opinions and beliefs and decisions of others, say, like calling people who vote for national independence from a corrupt phony supergovernment scheme that is essentially run by fascist corporate stooges "bigots".

ah, but who will even understand that sentence. It's usually useless talking to morons. Almost as useless as being one. lol

*yawn*
 
Do you think it's bigoted of a healthy country to choose not to pay for unhealthy countries in a socialized system? Economic failure seems to be an inevitable destination of socialist governments because eventually there aren't enough people left paying the bills. How many times do we need to see this cycle play out before we're going to recognize that socialism doesn't work?

- talk of 'socialist governments' monolithically is language for the childish, and for simpletons. You're neither, so you can do better. Your propaganda may work on the uneducated, but fortunately fewer and fewer of us belong in that group as the years climb
- Putin is the biggest winner today. UK role in world diminishes, US is weaker because their closest ally is weaker, EU is weaker, Europe more divided. To mr Rah-Rah America, isn't this worrying?
 
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