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Uhhh, Jonas lead the EURO league in rebounds per minute THIS YEAR. I'll admit I don't know much about Bismack, but I like his defensive minded aggressiveness.

So Kanter dominates for two years (including head-to-head against JV), comes to America, is deemed ineligible, and is now unproven. Jonas rebounds huge this past year and he is the better player. Just getting my facts straight.
 
So Kanter dominates for two years (including head-to-head against JV), comes to America, is deemed ineligible, and is now unproven. Jonas rebounds huge this past year and he is the better player. Just getting my facts straight.

I dont think anyone is arguing who is better than the other, since it really is impossible to come to this conclusion until the end of next season to the very least. Both assumptions are wrong if you look at it in a certain perspective; sure enes outplayed him a few years ago, but is that to say that JV hasnt improved AT ALL, especially after getting absolutely vital experience playing in the Euroleague, and even leading it in rebounding?? Kenneth Faried might have been better than Millsap in both of their respective high-school stints, but notice the different person Millsap is now; this logic could very well apply to JV. Also, Enes has simply made himself exempt from a years worth of basketball at an age where skills/technique are picked up the quickest, years that really mold what sort of player you will become. I am by no means a JV supporter, or anti-Kanter, we just all need to understand that no one is a safe bet and you cant honestly side with any of these prospects and we all wont know for sure what will happen on June 23rd. I hope for Williams, but Kanter or Knight at 3 certainly isnt bad (unless they bust of course, more likely with Kanter). With the 12th I feel like its more of a crapshoot, and I became fond of Singleton around February when I watched the Seminoles play (one of my fav ACC teams to watch) so I seriously hope Singleton is chosen over any other prospects, but it is all up to KOC in the end.
 
So Kanter dominates for two years (including head-to-head against JV), comes to America, is deemed ineligible, and is now unproven. Jonas rebounds huge this past year and he is the better player. Just getting my facts straight.

So you're going to tell me that a teenager that hasn't played real basketball in an entire year will be as good or better than he was? Conversely, if a player plays actual basketball, they can't get better?
 
So you're going to tell me that a teenager that hasn't played real basketball in an entire year will be as good or better than he was? Conversely, if a player plays actual basketball, they can't get better?

My point precisely, just a lot more concise.
 
So you're going to tell me that a teenager that hasn't played real basketball in an entire year will be as good or better than he was? Conversely, if a player plays actual basketball, they can't get better?

He HAS played ... just not for spectator money. I never said anything negative about Jonas. Kanter is an absolute beast .. saw it with my own damn eyes .. it's an opinion, yes, but that's all I've said.
 
I must admit that part of the reason I like Kanter is that I am just hoping he is a beast and that I just didn't get to see him play last year. I think a lot of people are hoping that at least one player from this draft can be a star...Maybe it's the kid we have never seen play:)

Williams - Not a true SF and plays lazily
Knight - Not a true PG and is a TO waiting to happen
Kema - Too short and is not a true PG
Kanter - He must be perfect
 
I must admit that part of the reason I like Kanter is that I am just hoping he is a beast and that I just didn't get to see him play last year. I think a lot of people are hoping that at least one player from this draft can be a star...Maybe it's the kid we have never seen play:)

Williams - Not a true SF and plays lazily
Knight - Not a true PG and is a TO waiting to happen
Kema - Too short and is not a true PG
Kanter - He must be perfect

Considering the flawed alternatives + the abilities Kanter displayed over a year ago in the NHS + his size, body fat = Kanter's the best option IMO.
 
I've thought the EXACT same thing. Couldn't Utah take Kanter @ 3, then package the #12 and Sap (or other pieces) to get back to 5 or 6? I don't see why not.

Holy **** you would run this organization into the ground in one year. Do you know the odds a #3 pick becomes equal to Millsap? its about 10% historically. Mind numbingly dumb idea.
 
He HAS played ... just not for spectator money. I never said anything negative about Jonas. Kanter is an absolute beast .. saw it with my own damn eyes .. it's an opinion, yes, but that's all I've said.

Get real. You think practice at UK and then workouts with coaches (most of the time) is better or equal to playing an actual competition? Hell, throw the NHS game out and how much has Kanter COMPETED in the last two years (actual question)?

Maybe Kanter's the Christ of basketball, but it's ludicrous to suggest that players are static, and that subsequently, Kanter hasn't gotten worse at all and that Valanciunas (or whoever has actually played real ball in the last year) hasn't gotten better either.
 
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