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Clarkson finalizing buyout with Jazz

SoberasHotRod said:
Clarkson is just such a unique player. He's the guy you want to take a shot at the end of the shot clock, but not the guy you want taking a shot otherwise. I posted this in another thread, but will post again:

Jordan Clarkson has the 3rd best 3pt % in the league when not open at 39.1%, but Clarkson's chart is just crazy: Wide Open - 38.5%, Open - 32.7%, Tight - 39.1%, Very Tight - 50%
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That isn't a surprise at all. When they are guarded they don't have the time to overthink it and just rely on habitual mechanics which generally yields a better outcome. When they are wide open they have more time to overthink the shot and increase the likelihood they miss.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Sure they can rent. Or they can buy a modest, small, 5000 sq ft $10 million house, with cash they won't even notice is gone, attach their name to it, and sell it for $15 million a few years later. Of course, just so they won't have to be bothered by the upstairs neighbors. Yeah I don't understand why they would want to do that either. Just rent a place in the projects, amirite?
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Maybe you’re of a different generation but new gen owning a home is less important compared to mobility.

Buying $10m and $15m is ideal but sometimes the economy takes a turn and you’re stuck with the property for months sometimes years.
 
LogGrad98 said:
That isn't a surprise at all. When they are guarded they don't have the time to overthink it and just rely on habitual mechanics which generally yields a better outcome. When they are wide open they have more time to overthink the shot and increase the likelihood they miss.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "they", but almost every other player in the NBA has the complete opposite breakdown than Clarkson. Most players make a significantly higher percentage of shots when open vs guarded.
 
The Midnight said:
Maybe you’re of a different generation but new gen owning a home is less important compared to mobility.

Buying $10m and $15m is ideal but sometimes the economy takes a turn and you’re stuck with the property for months sometimes years.
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Maybe you don't understand the impact of staggering wealth. When you can flick $5 million at a home or even a penthouse in New York without missing a beat, the way anyone else would flick a $5 bill at a homeless person on the side of the road, it changes the way you view your living arrangements. He has extreme flexibility/mobility provided by extreme wealth. He has "people" to handle the sale for him while he goes and lives somewhere else when he feels like it. They live in an entirely different world from the rest of us.


And no matter how hard you try to hold onto your youth by dating teenagers, you are closer to my generation than theirs. For fun, since I have been chatting with her this morning, I asked my 23 year old daughter what she thought about this and she said the only reason her generation shies away from home ownership is they feel locked out of the market and like it is a pipe dream, but if she has millions of dollars she'd buy a house every chance she got even if she was moving every year.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I'm not sure what you mean by "they", but almost every other player in the NBA has the complete opposite breakdown than Clarkson. Most players make a significantly higher percentage of shots when open vs guarded.
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To me that just means he gets in his own head more than most.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Maybe you don't understand the impact of staggering wealth. When you can flick $5 million at a home or even a penthouse in New York without missing a beat, the way anyone else would flick a $5 bill at a homeless person on the side of the road, it changes the way you view your living arrangements. He has extreme flexibility/mobility provided by extreme wealth. He has "people" to handle the sale for him while he goes and lives somewhere else when he feels like it. They live in an entirely different world from the rest of us.
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This is NYC Pretty sure they have month to month rental units a person with money can occupy
So what if it's 20,000 per month That's nothing for someone earning 20 mil a year
 
slc said:
This is NYC Pretty sure they have month to month rental units a person with money can occupy
So what if it's 20,000 per month That's nothing for someone earning 20 mil a year
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Really you hit on the biggest reason someone would rent there, convenience in the city and prestige in the location. But even then I'm sure plenty of people like this would prefer to buy a penthouse than rent for $20k a month.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Maybe you don't understand the impact of staggering wealth. When you can flick $5 million at a home or even a penthouse in New York without missing a beat, the way anyone else would flick a $5 bill at a homeless person on the side of the road, it changes the way you view your living arrangements. He has extreme flexibility/mobility provided by extreme wealth. He has "people" to handle the sale for him while he goes and lives somewhere else when he feels like it. They live in an entirely different world from the rest of us.


And no matter how hard you try to hold onto your youth by dating teenagers, you are closer to my generation than theirs. For fun, since I have been chatting with her this morning, I asked my 23 year old daughter what she thought about this and she said the only reason her generation shies away from home ownership is they feel locked out of the market and like it is a pipe dream, but if she has millions of dollars she'd buy a house every chance she got even if she was moving every year.
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Yeah but by renting you can change the house / condo every year if you want to without being stuck to one place.

Benefits are Flexibility, Variety, Cash liquidity..

It’s just a different mindset I don't expect you to understand how we new gen think.
 
The Midnight said:
Yeah but by renting you can change the house / condo every year if you want to without being stuck to one place.

Benefits are Flexibility, Variety, Cash liquidity..

It’s just a different mindset I don't expect you to understand how we new gen think.
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I don't expect you to understand how the ultra wealthy think either, old timer. Did the home get you your pudding today?
 
LogGrad98 said:
I don't expect you to understand how the ultra wealthy think either, old timer. Did the home get you your pudding today?
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Yeah but these players haven't always been ultra rich though…

Most of them were very poor before…

I mean i wouldn't expect them to have sound financial plans.
 
hgb said:
Not once he clears waivers, I believe.
Edit: To clarify, cap hit is the full contract regardless, but I think the Jazz buyout will just simply be whatever they agree on, given that he clears waivers. If someone pulled him off waivers they'd be stuck with parts of the contract.
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If you pull someone off waivers you take the entire contract. When a player is signed after clearing waivers the new contract is subtracted from the old contract. But, yes, the cap hit for the old team does not change.
 
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The Midnight said:
Yeah but these players haven't always been ultra rich though…

Most of them were very poor before…

I mean i wouldn't expect them to have sound financial plans.
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Eh, Clarkson has been around enough to get it. He's likely got an entourage with accountants and managers that help with that ****. Most young players have groups around them like that nowadays. When they might make $20 or $30 million for an entire career they could just party and blow money and not worry about it as much, and many many players ended up broke as a result. But you don't hear about that very much now in the world of average career earnings in the hundreds of millions. They can afford the financial help from the get-go, and most of them get that help before they even sign their first big contract.
 
Clarkson is one my favorite players in the league. For the last 3 years the Jazz were the very last team I wanted to see him play for. Hopefully there's still some flame left in him and he can have big moments for the Knicks.
 
Sardines said:
What difference does that make?
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Liquidity, flexibility and freedom.

Renting free you up to move every 6 months if you wanted to without much waiting around or repercussions.

Have you heard of digital nomads? These are people who could work remotely. They therefore can live in different countries all around the world without being tied down.

It’s what new gen are choosing nowadays.
 
The Midnight said:
Liquidity, flexibility and freedom.

Renting free you up to move every 6 months if you wanted to without much waiting around or repercussions.

Have you heard of digital nomads? These are people who could work remotely. They therefore can live in different countries all around the world without being tied down.

It’s what new gen are choosing nowadays.
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None of that is true in this scenario. You've done nothing but talk nonsense. None of this is relevant to Clarkson.
 
framer said:
If you pull someone off waivers you take the entire contract. When a player is signed after clearing waivers the new contract is subtracted from the old contract. But, yes, the cap hit for the old team does not change.
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Ah, I've misunderstood, then. Thanks.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Clarkson is just such a unique player. He's the guy you want to take a shot at the end of the shot clock, but not the guy you want taking a shot otherwise. I posted this in another thread, but will post again:

Jordan Clarkson has the 3rd best 3pt % in the league when not open at 39.1%, but Clarkson's chart is just crazy: Wide Open - 38.5%, Open - 32.7%, Tight - 39.1%, Very Tight - 50%
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he likes it tight
 
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