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Cody Williams Hype and Appreciation Thread

Most of us were convinced that a player was a bust at some point and they came back and surprised us.

Half this board is still convinced that Collier was a bust because he had historic turnover rates to begin the season. He looked great just 3 months later.

I am fine showing patience to Cody Williams. But it was a poor showing year 1, no doubt.
 
Most of us were convinced that a player was a bust at some point and they came back and surprised us.

Half this board is still convinced that Collier was a bust because he had historic turnover rates to begin the season. He looked great just 3 months later.

I am fine showing patience to Cody Williams. But it was a poor showing year 1, no doubt.
That was more than just a bad showing. A lot worse than Exum even.
 
I would say they both struggled in their rookie seasons. What is weird is thst Dante got more games and minutes than Cody even though we were intentionally tanking in 2025 and we weren't in 2015.

Identical per 36 ppg. 3/10ths of a percentage point better fg%. More assists and turnovers but fewer rebounds.

At the end of the day, Dante could have been better but he suffered a bunch of injuries. If Cody Williams has a similar path but doesn't get injured... who knows.
Can Hardy/staff develop him? I think so. Will he get there? Odds are against him right now.
 
I had no idea Dante was that bad as a rookie. Dante then went on to tear his ACL in a FIBA summer qualifier for Australia.
 
Raw numbers are fairly similar, but advanced numbers show a huge edge to Exum....but it's somewhat of an apples to oranges comparison given the different situations. Still, it's worth mentioning that Cody was the tank commander on a terrible team while Exum was a +/- god on a decent team.

I think there are a lot of differences between the two, but if Cody becomes an NBA player, it will be similar to Exum's path to becoming an NBA player. He found a way to become a role player by greatly improving his shot and becoming a versatile role player on both ends. Cody will have to do the same. Enough to get by on offense, then some versatility on the defensive end.
 
Raw numbers are fairly similar, but advanced numbers show a huge edge to Exum....but it's somewhat of an apples to oranges comparison given the different situations. Still, it's worth mentioning that Cody was the tank commander on a terrible team while Exum was a +/- god on a decent team.

I think there are a lot of differences between the two, but if Cody becomes an NBA player, it will be similar to Exum's path to becoming an NBA player. He found a way to become a role player by greatly improving his shot and becoming a versatile role player on both ends. Cody will have to do the same. Enough to get by on offense, then some versatility on the defensive end.

As bad as Cody was, I still don't think it's unrealistic for him to become a positive NBA player at some point in his career. He had quite a few nice moments defensively this year and I really think just adding strength and natural maturity is all he needs to do to be a positive on that end.

On offense I'm choosing to believe that the Jazz prioritized future progress vs giving him the best chance to succeed this year. There were reports of him doing weight lifting on game days and I know they were retooling his shot during the season. Both of these things were probably the right thing to do, but also can explain some of the really poor shooting performances.
 
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