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Corbin not all to blame

Doublea said:
We had pretty competent starters, and a bench full of lottery picks, I just don't know how you would miss the playoffs with that team.
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Which of the 8 Western Conference playoff teams had less talent on their roster than the Jazz?
 
That's the irony of this season. He's not all to blame and I'd say this is the season you can blame him the least, yet this season his past seasons/deficiencies are coming home to roost.

If this was Ty's first year I'd tell the people who were calling for his head to chill out. But honestly, is there anyone who believes he is a good head coach and just has a bad hand now?
 
Nate505 said:
That's the irony of this season. He's not all to blame and I'd say this is the season you can blame him the least, yet this season his past seasons/deficiencies are coming home to roost.

If this was Ty's first year I'd tell the people who were calling for his head to chill out. But honestly, is there anyone who believes he is a good head coach and just has a bad hand now?
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This 100x
 
Doublea said:
I'm not one to judge, but another coach could have done a lot better.
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You just said you didn't know how that team could miss the playoffs. To make the playoffs, you have to be one of the top 8 teams in your conference. Do you think the Jazz had a better team than any of the 8 that made the playoffs in the West?
 
Of course it's not all Corbin's fault but The Jazz do absolutely nothing well as a team. And as for the talent of the core players, if you took Kanter/Favors off this team right now and replaced them with Jefferson/Millsap would their record be any better - maybe one more win? LOL - maybe one less win?

What I do know The Jazz did nothing well as a team last year. Whatever marginal success that The Jazz achieved last year was due to the fact that they had 4 starting caliber 4/5's. A third of the league doesn't even have 2.
 
Nate505 said:
That's the irony of this season. He's not all to blame and I'd say this is the season you can blame him the least, yet this season his past seasons/deficiencies are coming home to roost.

If this was Ty's first year I'd tell the people who were calling for his head to chill out. But honestly, is there anyone who believes he is a good head coach and just has a bad hand now?
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Whitewashing your own history much? You've criticized Corbin since five games into his career and have never let up. You never gave him a chance. You always thought you knew more than Coach and have bitched about substitution patterns since day one, never conceding when playing time for the youngsters vindicated his choice of vets. Truth is, you wanted to see the youth and that's all that mattered. It's not about Corbin, at least be honest about it.
 
candrew said:
Of course it's not all Corbin's fault but The Jazz do absolutely nothing well as a team. And as for the talent of the core players, if you took Kanter/Favors off this team right now and replaced them with Jefferson/Millsap would their record be any better - maybe one more win? LOL - maybe one less win?

What I do know The Jazz did nothing well as a team last year. Whatever marginal success that The Jazz achieved last year was due to the fact that they had 4 starting caliber 4/5's. A third of the league doesn't even have 2.
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I realize you're fighting ZMAN and Joe Bagguh for most irrational hater.. I think you've won the crown with this one. If you really want to look like your avatar hit you in the head with that club..
 
I am unsure why everyone is looking so hard for someone to blame. We all knew this would be an ugly season, and it is. It might be more ugly than us homer fans hoped it would be, but ugly nonetheless. This is a pile of wet clay. Forming it into something that resembles a basketball team will take a LOT of effort and time. It will not happen overnight, and it will result in some butt ugly forms along the way. But we will get there. We are poised well to make moves next season and begin to rise back to a level of relevance in the NBA. Firing our coach right this second, trading away Hayward or whoever the current whipping-boy is as soon as possible, or releasing borderline D-leaguers will have so little impact on the current situation it isn't really even worth the time.
 
First of all it's not a club it's a machete you movie illiterate.

Second of all you do realize right now Favors averages more points, rebounds and shoots a better percentage than Big Al - without throwing a **** block into the rest of the offense.

And while Millsap averages 15 and 7, Kanter averages 14 and 7. Now I'm sure you'd counter that The Jazz would have a significantly better record because of the intangibles they brought like Big Al's lock down defense and Millsap's non-stop sulking; but sorry I'm still a bit skeptical.
 
l Abach l said:
Did you just respond to a comment you made? And I don't think this thread is stupid. I think that it's important to realize that our players just aren't good, even if we had a great coach. It's important to realize that our future plans may not involve the "core 4" and that we are better off trading them in pursuit of alternatives.
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Thank god your not the gm. Blow up the c4 is just dumb as hell, and yes this is a dumb thread! All we are missing is a star and a bench, and a pg. none of this has to do with the c4 being bad this is about the org. Leaving the c4 out stranded on an island so to speak, but by all means lets cut bait with the c4 and become the clippers of the last 25-30 years.

Ya! Great thread.

This is about a horrible coach who doesn't have a clue and a young c4 with talent surrounded by untalented players with no future.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Thank god your not the gm. Blow up the c4 is just dumb as hell, and yes this is a dumb thread! All we are missing is a star and a bench, and a pg. none of this has to do with the c4 being bad this is about the org. Leaving the c4 out stranded on an island so to speak, but by all means lets cut bait with the c4 and become the clippers of the last 25-30 years.
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Take off the Homer glasses and realize that the C4 isn't untouchable. We're 1-13! No one is safe on the roster.
 
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