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The Thriller
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This is what the right wing anti vax nonsense is doing to us. A third child who would’ve been fine had they been vaccinated, has died.
www.oregonlive.com
3rd measles-related death reported; 2nd child dies in Texas
A spokesperson confirmed the child was unvaccinated and being treated for measles complications. The U.S. now has more than double the number of measles cases it saw in all of 2024, with Texas reporting another large jump in cases and hospitalizations on Friday.
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The Thriller
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View: https://bsky.app/profile/washingtonpost.com/post/3lmxaune3s22h
Weird. What a coincidence.
Is this what maga means?
PJF
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Red
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Always a positive when bs can be corrected….And few sling it more than Jim Jordan. Love how he always has his sleeves rolled up, likes giving the impression that he’s “no nonsense, rolling up his sleeves and working for you!” lol, what an arse…..such a huge phony…
Science's COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center and the Heising-Simons Foundation.
In the wake of the dramatic news of a potentially effective COVID-19 vaccine, President Donald Trump posted a flurry of tweets that claimed its makers, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and Democrats had conspired to suppress the announcement until after the 3 November presidential election. The U.S. company involved, Pfizer, "didn't have the courage to do it before," Trump asserted on 9 November. And FDA and Democrats, he wrote, "didn't want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later."
Initially, Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech suggested they might have preliminary trial results by late October—a timetable Pfizer's CEO, Albert Bourla, projected as recently as 29 September. The timeline was based on a plan that called for an outside panel to take a first look at the efficacy data for the vaccine when a total of 32 cases of COVID-19 had accumulated in the vaccine and placebo groups. But the companies and FDA later agreed on a protocol change that nearly doubled that number and delayed that review.
There is no evidence, however, that the decision had anything to do with presidential politics. And the companies flat out reject at Trump's claims. "What people believe is their business," Kathrin Jansen, who heads vaccine R&D at Pfizer, told ScienceInsider. "Quite frankly, we had no time and still have no time to deal with politics. We are at this 24/7, thousands of people working diligently to make this work. And for us, it was never about politics, it was always about just the disaster that we were in the middle of, all of us globally, seeing the devastation and the deaths."
Given that Pfizer and BioNTech only described their results in a press release that had scant details beyond the finding that it had greater than 90% efficacy, ScienceInsider followed up with company representatives and other vaccine experts to address some of the confusion surrounding the vaccine.
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Science's COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center and the Heising-Simons Foundation.
In the wake of the dramatic news of a potentially effective COVID-19 vaccine, President Donald Trump posted a flurry of tweets that claimed its makers, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and Democrats had conspired to suppress the announcement until after the 3 November presidential election. The U.S. company involved, Pfizer, "didn't have the courage to do it before," Trump asserted on 9 November. And FDA and Democrats, he wrote, "didn't want to have me get a Vaccine WIN, prior to the election, so instead it came out five days later."
Initially, Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech suggested they might have preliminary trial results by late October—a timetable Pfizer's CEO, Albert Bourla, projected as recently as 29 September. The timeline was based on a plan that called for an outside panel to take a first look at the efficacy data for the vaccine when a total of 32 cases of COVID-19 had accumulated in the vaccine and placebo groups. But the companies and FDA later agreed on a protocol change that nearly doubled that number and delayed that review.
There is no evidence, however, that the decision had anything to do with presidential politics. And the companies flat out reject at Trump's claims. "What people believe is their business," Kathrin Jansen, who heads vaccine R&D at Pfizer, told ScienceInsider. "Quite frankly, we had no time and still have no time to deal with politics. We are at this 24/7, thousands of people working diligently to make this work. And for us, it was never about politics, it was always about just the disaster that we were in the middle of, all of us globally, seeing the devastation and the deaths."
Given that Pfizer and BioNTech only described their results in a press release that had scant details beyond the finding that it had greater than 90% efficacy, ScienceInsider followed up with company representatives and other vaccine experts to address some of the confusion surrounding the vaccine.
PJF
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The Thriller
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Red
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You have to be a very, very unique brand of DUMB and NAIVE, to believe the mRNA Covid vaccines killed more Americans than two world wars and Vietnam combined. To post otherwise, making such asinine claims, without so much as 5 seconds of fact checking is: 1) lazy; 2) grossly irresponsible; 3) deliberately spreading lies for the shear love of “owning the libs”. Screw your own country, who cares, owning libs is all that matters. Respect for truth? That will never happen.
www.techarp.com
ESTIMATED U.S. mRNA SHOT DEATH TOLL: 470,000–600,000
Two independent estimations — one based on VAERS-adjusted data, the other derived from MIT/Florida Dept. of Health study findings — yield a conservative range of 470,000 to 600,000 American deaths from the COVID-19 mRNA shots. The true number is likely much greater.
More than WWI, WWII, and Vietnam COMBINED.
I’m not sure what he meant by “independent estimations” since it looks like that he made both estimates – more on this below.
More importantly, the two “independent estimations” did not show that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines killed more Americans than World War 1, World War 2, and the Vietnam War combined, and here are the reasons why…(read the article, if you believe the foolish claim)
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Low vaccine uptake and waning immunity are two reasons for continued Covid deaths.
abcnews.go.com
Fact Check: Did Vaccines Kill More Than WW1, WW2 & Vietnam? | Tech ARP
Did mRNA COVID-19 vaccines kill more Americans than WW2, WW2, and the Vietnam War combined? Here is our fact check!
www.techarp.com
Truth :
In the video clip, Joe Rogan referred to a post by (archive) Nicolas Hulscher, who said that two “independent estimations” somehow that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines caused 470,0oo to 600,000 American deaths:ESTIMATED U.S. mRNA SHOT DEATH TOLL: 470,000–600,000
Two independent estimations — one based on VAERS-adjusted data, the other derived from MIT/Florida Dept. of Health study findings — yield a conservative range of 470,000 to 600,000 American deaths from the COVID-19 mRNA shots. The true number is likely much greater.
More than WWI, WWII, and Vietnam COMBINED.
I’m not sure what he meant by “independent estimations” since it looks like that he made both estimates – more on this below.
More importantly, the two “independent estimations” did not show that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines killed more Americans than World War 1, World War 2, and the Vietnam War combined, and here are the reasons why…(read the article, if you believe the foolish claim)
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Low vaccine uptake and waning immunity are two reasons for continued Covid deaths.
Why are more than 300 people in the US still dying from COVID every week?
Last month, an average of about 350 people died each week from COVID, according to data from the CDC. With available vaccines and treatments, why are people still dying?
abcnews.go.com
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The Thriller
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I know a lot of Americans voted for the teevee president last November because the media told them that eggs were too expensive and that Trump would be great for rating and entertainment. But I for one would like to have a regular economy, foreign policy that aligns with our western allies, and vaccines. Now we won’t have a flu covid vaccine anytime soon because stupid voters empowered a lunatic like Kennedy.
This sucks
Remember, if happy brown lady had won last November, your 401k wouldn’t have been damaged by a mindless trade war, Ukraine would be supported (and Putin’s *** wouldn’t be licked by Trump), and you’d likely have a flu/covid combo shot approved soon. Nice job stupid people! Take a bow!
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Remember, if happy brown lady had won last November, your 401k wouldn’t have been damaged by a mindless trade war, Ukraine would be supported (and Putin’s *** wouldn’t be licked by Trump), and you’d likely have a flu/covid combo shot approved soon. Nice job stupid people! Take a bow!
Mongoose
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Fauci's a lying psychopath that deserves to be in prison.
View: https://x.com/0rf/status/1928551488768585869
View: https://x.com/0rf/status/1928551488768585869
Red
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“Well, we are all going to die”. A Republican saying the quiet part out loud: We do not care if more poor people die. Tax cuts for the wealthy is worth it.
www.motherjones.com
The largest Medicaid cuts in US history, which, if signed into law, would sever healthcare for the poorest Americans in order to offset massive tax cuts for the wealthy, have a curious new defense: “Well, we all are going to die.”
The line emerged on Friday as Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) attempted to defend the cuts before angry constituents during a contentious town hall. It was delivered with a smirk, and then, apparent impatience. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said as the audience gasped.
It is true: Every one of us will indeed perish. But implicit in Ernst’s cavalier response on Friday is that the inevitability of death neutralizes how death comes for us. Jeopardizing health care for the most vulnerable? Why the hell not. Speeding up death for the oldest Americans by making them sicker? Well, we all are going to die.
Of course, the reality is that so much of the death that American society tolerates—our gun epidemic, a lack of universal health care, etc.—is a choice enshrined in our ****** politics. Just take a look at the staggering rise in babies born HIV positive right now, thanks to a similar casual cruelty of Elon Musk.
Ernst’s point is an accidental bedrock of GOP politics. Death does not matter, for certain people, if it means a supposed economic boost to the few.
"Well, we’re all going to die," says Joni Ernst in defense of Medicaid cuts
Joni Ernst's casual cruelty is an accidental bedrock of GOP politics: Death does not matter, for certain people.
www.motherjones.com
The largest Medicaid cuts in US history, which, if signed into law, would sever healthcare for the poorest Americans in order to offset massive tax cuts for the wealthy, have a curious new defense: “Well, we all are going to die.”
The line emerged on Friday as Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) attempted to defend the cuts before angry constituents during a contentious town hall. It was delivered with a smirk, and then, apparent impatience. “For heaven’s sakes, folks,” she said as the audience gasped.
It is true: Every one of us will indeed perish. But implicit in Ernst’s cavalier response on Friday is that the inevitability of death neutralizes how death comes for us. Jeopardizing health care for the most vulnerable? Why the hell not. Speeding up death for the oldest Americans by making them sicker? Well, we all are going to die.
Of course, the reality is that so much of the death that American society tolerates—our gun epidemic, a lack of universal health care, etc.—is a choice enshrined in our ****** politics. Just take a look at the staggering rise in babies born HIV positive right now, thanks to a similar casual cruelty of Elon Musk.
Ernst’s point is an accidental bedrock of GOP politics. Death does not matter, for certain people, if it means a supposed economic boost to the few.
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