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Current Players NBA Draft Round 1: Ellis269 vs. Gas

Which team would win in a 7-game series?

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Ron Mexico said:
Mo Bamba starting is stupid. Like all rookies, he might end up good this year but it's unlikely he will help his team win most of this season. Even if he puts up good stats.

But if I count Nikola as the starter Gas is better. Ellis has no good shooters starting. Rubio is your best shooter. DeRozan, favors and Adams are non threats from 3. Maybe one of them picks up that skill but I wouldn't count on it. Butler shot 35% from 3 last year.
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Well, who would start in real life would be more of a competition I guess. Allen and Bamba are both pretty raw. Vucevic makes more sense being he is a vet. But I really want some top quality rim protection. Allen and Bamba have so much length that even being young they will be able to protect the rim more than Vucevic.

I just get the feeling Bamba is going to be really good. His offensive looks pretty dang good for his size. He could be Rudy with an offensive game. He is a lot more fluid and can actually shoot the ball.
 
Gas said:
Well, who would start in real life would be more of a competition I guess. Allen and Bamba are both pretty raw. Vucevic makes more sense being he is a vet. But I really want some top quality rim protection. Allen and Bamba have so much length that even being young they will be able to protect the rim more than Vucevic.

I just get the feeling Bamba is going to be really good. His offensive looks pretty dang good for his size. He could be Rudy with an offensive game. He is a lot more fluid and can actually shoot the ball.
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He probably will be really good, just not next year as a rookie. His rotations on defense will probably suck, he will be over thinking everything and his reactions will be slower because of it. The speed of the game will overwhelm him at times.

1 or less lottery players actually help their team win every year as a rookie. Maybe he will be the one but chances are greatly against it. He might even put up good stats on a crappy team but that doesn't mean he has learned to make winning plays consistently.

That's why drafting them is a high risk move in these things. Maybe they end up good and help you in next year's voting, who knows .
 
Ron Mexico said:
Well I was talking about your matchup with Ellis last round.

But still against Siro you were only better at the SF spot. Maybe Gordon improves and passes up Millsap next year but that's a big maybe.

Obviously most people agree with me that's why the voting wasn't close.

You can keep crying and throwing a tantrum but it won't help you win or suddenly not have a crappy team.

Better luck next year. Maybe try not being an idiot when you draft next year?
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This was the first round, idiot!! I only went against Siro. I wasn’t throwing a tantrum, but stating fact. There are already posters that admitted they didn’t vote for me because my team was worse but that they didn’t like me. It’s a proven fact. And Gordon is better then Millsap


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This is another difficult one.

I'm gonna assume either Vucevic or Allen starts at the center for Gas, Mo just isn't ready. I've got Mo as my 'rookie homer pick' this year, so I know what I'm talking about. But if you want instant offense in the post just drop the ball to Vucevic, he'll get it done for you. Even with Adams there I think he'll still get something. Either that or Allen who played really well at the end of last year. I know cos I had him in my fantasy team and watched him grow. Adams isn't all that offensively, so I think Allen could match up pretty well defensively there. So I'm gonna assume the center position is a wash.

Curry vs Rubio. Rubio was really good at the end of last year, but Curry is GREAT and his long range 'bombs' when connected could negate some of Rubio's one-on-one effectiveness. I still think Curry is crafty enough to get his in this match up. Defensively Curry is pretty average, but without any 3pt shooters for Rubio to pass to I think Curry will do fine here. Curry with an edge for sure.

Holiday vs DeRozan. Interesting match up. DeRozan shrunk in the playoffs last year like every other year when his mid range wasn't going in. Meanwhile Holiday showed he could step it up and play big along side Rondo. I think it's is a close one. I think they'd probably ended up cancelling each other out here.

Tatum vs Butler. Heart says Tatum, but head says Butler. Butler is still better right now, he'll give you 21/5/5 any day of the week and defensively he'll be effective yet again even against the talent of Tatum. But Tatum has the 3pt shooting edge. Still, it's Butler with an edge here.

Kuzma vs Favors. Really hard one. Kuzma obviously the more versatile with the 3pt shooting and Favors with the solid defense and rebounding. I really think Kuzma could make a quantum leap next season playing along side LeBron. Learning from him, getting good shots from LeBron's passing. He has all the tools. LeBron had already said that he really like Lakers young guys and Kuzma has to be at the top of that list. I think it's another tie here.

Bench: Neither here nor there, I'm gonna call it an even match on the bench.

Overall: Ellis team is full of attack the basket/mid range, iso players, I really think Rubio is wasted on this team because DeRozan and Butler are gonna hold the ball A LOT. And if Rubio isn't gonna be handling the ball not sure how effective he is as a spot up shooter. Like Cy said, Ellis has a very talented team that doesn't seem to fit all that well together.

I'm sure most voters will go with Ellis though with Rubio, DeRozan, Butler, Favors.. 2 Jazz players flanked by 2 legit All Stars, but I really like the Curry/Holiday combo. And factoring in Kuzma and Tatum's improvement next year I think there's enough inside/outside scoring to keep things interesting.

Gas for me.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
This was the first round, idiot!! I only went against Siro. I wasn’t throwing a tantrum, but stating fact. There are already posters that admitted they didn’t vote for me because my team was worse but that they didn’t like me. It’s a proven fact. And Gordon is better then Millsap


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I was talking about the last set of voting obviously. Keep up and you are still currently throwing a little fit.

People were giving you a hard time when they said that and making fun of you because you keep saying that. I know you struggle with understanding when people are mocking you so I guess I am glad I can help you out with that.

Everyone votes for which team they like more, it has nothing to do with the person who drafted them.

And no Gordon is not better than Millsap yet. You are predicting he will next year and thats fine. I dont think he will pass him up yet. Gordon has not learned to play winning basketball yet. Even in an injured year Millsap was better this year at almost every facet of the game.
 
Gas said:
Of course Im losing to a team with 1 three point shooter in the starting lineup.
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I would’ve voted for you had you bothered to do a writeup. Hell, I’ll say it Ellis269’s writeup was lazy as hell, but he still bothered to do something. To me this is a competition and if you want to win you don’t sit on your hands. You did that, so you lose. You want my vote, then you do the damned writeup. I look forward to reading every writeup and how you see your team. My vote is based off your writeup, I also don’t do some of the bs and ignore benches. It’s hard to win consistently without a decent bench in real life.

Sorry gas, I wanted to vote for you but u dropped the ball. So sad:(
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I would’ve voted for you had you bothered to do a writeup. Hell, I’ll say it Ellis269’s writeup was lazy as hell, but he still bothered to do something. To me this is a competition and if you want to win you don’t sit on your hands. You did that, so you lose. You want my vote, then you do the damned writeup. I look forward to reading every writeup and how you see your team. My vote is based off your writeup, I also don’t do some of the bs and ignore benches. It’s hard to win consistently without a decent bench in real life.

Sorry gas, I wanted to vote for you but u dropped the ball. So sad:(
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You think his team is better but you are not voting for him because he didn't do a write up?
 
Ron Mexico said:
You think his team is better but you are not voting for him because he didn't do a write up?
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Yep. It’s part of the program. After the draft, that’s the best part. I vote on who’s writeup I like the most. I vote best team not best players


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No writeup means poor coaching and guys doing nothing but one on one poor team basketball.


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