You seem to think you're something more than an idiot. You're not.
David Locke = massive troll?
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You seem to think you're something more than an idiot. You're not.
Brown Notes
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I'd like to know how it is a league wide practice to keep the closers in the game through OT yet Corbin should be fired and now Locke is a troll for trying to explain this.
I don't recall seeing OT games where teams subbed much at all unless there was an obvious mismatch like Gordon on Heinrich. If there is an example of teams in OT making a bunch of subs for the sake of fresh legs please fill me in.
I don't recall seeing OT games where teams subbed much at all unless there was an obvious mismatch like Gordon on Heinrich. If there is an example of teams in OT making a bunch of subs for the sake of fresh legs please fill me in.
Weezur
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It's funnier if you've seen the Simpsons episode these hobgoblins are from.
jope
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there hasnt been a 4-OT game in about 15 years, gunna be hard to find a valid comparison. but i tend to agree with you.
freakazoid
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So how many OTs do you have to play before you consider the possibility that fresh legs might give you an advantage? 5? 10?
I think your point is valid, up to the start of a 3rd overtime. At some point, you have to consider thinking outside the box. It's probably not a good idea to wait for players to start coughing up blood before subbing them out.
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JJ Rage
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Fresh legs was just one problem. CJ, Hayward, and Millsap were completely ineffective in overtime. Every Millsap miss (7 of 9 shots) in overtime was clanked off of front rim, Hayward couldn't move towards the rim without stumbling or losing the ball, and CJ was CJ.
Too many people have given too much credit to Corbin for the amount of playing time the young guys received during the win streak. In that stretch, Raja has been out, Watson has been out, Howard was out, and Big Al missed a pair of games for his grandmother's funeral.
When it came time to put real confidence in the young guys by given them burn in an overtime game in which our starters all player 50+ minutes and only ONE bench player played more than 20... Corbin fell back into his usual ways and played the starting lineup until foul outs forced him to do otherwise. By the time he made a willing substitution, the game was already lost.
Hedda Gambler
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Hayward was pretty darn good in OT even though he missed some shots. He was the player that took it too them and he hit a lot of FTs, He also had a magnificent pass to Big Al who should have won the game for us so Gordon did well with his time. Asfor the others, there were both good and bad moments. I agree that some subs could and most likely should have been made, but the NBA is a strange breed indeed. Many teams don`t play the zone simply beacuse the players don`t want to play it. It sounds strange and even childish to outsiders, but the NBA is a star-driven league and their influence over the teams is probably much bigger than in other sports. I`m not saying that Ty did the right thing, but that he did the conventional thing. Maybe he will learn from this, but what really concerns me is that our announcers never even mentioned the possibility of substituting in OT. I wanted Favors out there to give some pain to Atlanta, but when people who are with the team on a daily basis don`t even entertain the idea of subbing, it says a lot about the conventional thinking in the NBA.
In general, Locke has said that we are the team in the league with the fewest games with players getting 40+ minutes a game. It is not like Ty is playing our starters tired on a regular basis and Big Al is actually the man with the fewest minutes on average on Hollinger`s top ten PER-rating. Ty is doing a good job with this team and with player development, and hopefully he learns something from last nights game and lets Favors, Burks and Kanter destroy the Nets tonight.
Hedda Gambler
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Double post
I got out of work and was in my car by about 6:20, with just a few possessions left in regulation. Locke mentioned, I think towards the end of the first overtime, that Atlanta seemed out of gas, that both teams were running low on energy and that the first coach to put in an energy line-up would win the game. Then he talked about how much deeper the Jazz were than Atlanta. Seems like in the moment he was all for making substitutions to bring in the young, fresh legs to finish off the other team.
Trying to explain something doesn't always mean you agree with it.
Trying to explain something doesn't always mean you agree with it.
sahlensguy
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To be fair to Locke, he did call for Evans to be subbed in, in the 3rd OT.
I like Locke and Booner BTW. You could hear Locke wanting to strangle CJ by the end.
I like Locke and Booner BTW. You could hear Locke wanting to strangle CJ by the end.