Derrick Favors: I'm playing on one leg

[Siro]

That and we could have made a trade for a stop gap option while he healed until the last 4-5 weeks he looked like a shell of himself. Has been good recently though.

Also I think they should review those plays... I constantly frustrated by how much contact he takes on shots with no whistles. He's just not explosive enough to finish through it this year. Guy gets murdered on the regular:

He hasn't looked good recently. He still looks like a shell of himself, despite the much better numbers. He has looked better though, given how low the bar was set. Here's to hoping a full offseason of rest will fix him, but I'm keeping my expectations in check.

 

[b_line]

Favors was a borderline all star. If he gets healthy again, this team is approaching 60 wins. Imagine what it will be like if George and derrick are healthy and the jazz keep them. That's a contender.

 

[b_line]

He hasn't looked good recently. He still looks like a shell of himself, despite the much better numbers. He has looked better though, given how low the bar was set. Here's to hoping a full offseason of rest will fix him, but I'm keeping my expectations in check.

He's had moments where he looks great. Even a game or two with 20 and 10. He was so consistent last year. We were arguing whether or not he was the most important jazz man.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Even if Favors was healthy his numbers wouldn't be as good as last year's (unless he just takes a huge jump with his shooting). Rudy has surpassed him in the offense as a rim threat. I dont equate his numbers with him getting healthier. More so I equate his defensive impact to his level of health.

 

[b_line]

Even if Favors was healthy his numbers wouldn't be as good as last year's (unless he just takes a huge jump with his shooting). Rudy has surpassed him in the offense as a rim threat. I dont equate his numbers with him getting healthier. More so I equate his defensive impact to his level of health.

I don't think he would have had a huge drop. Maybe a decline in rebound rate, but his mid range game was so good, that it would have only made Rudy look better with more space to operate in. He has even hit a couple threes this year. He was finishing really well in the restricted area last year as well, and he hasn't been doing that this year. He may have gotten less opportunities, but his efficiency should be better when healthy.

 

[Jazz4ever]

I don't think he would have had a huge drop. Maybe a decline in rebound rate, but his mid range game was so good, that it would have only made Rudy look better with more space to operate in. He has even hit a couple threes this year. He was finishing really well in the restricted area last year as well, and he hasn't been doing that this year. He may have gotten less opportunities, but his efficiency should be better when healthy.

Um, just no.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Even if Favors was healthy his numbers wouldn't be as good as last year's (unless he just takes a huge jump with his shooting). Rudy has surpassed him in the offense as a rim threat. I dont equate his numbers with him getting healthier. More so I equate his defensive impact to his level of health.

I agree with this. He's moved much better recently... it was the getting beat on gettable rebounds and not affecting opposing drivers that was more troubling. His shot was good for a little while a year or two ago but its always been suspect to me.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I still think we'd be better with a player who is not as good as Favors but fits better. I think if we had a guy like Covington at the four we'd be able to spread guys out and might even be better defensively.

We have been good with the limpy version of Favors and I'm not sure how much more the healthy version of Favors does for us. The healthy version of Favors also will cost a ton. I think if Favs finishes the season with relative health he could fetch a decent asset on the trade market... won't be amazing, but a team with cap space could renegotiate and extend him. Phoenix and Denver would be good candidates there.

Hayward fits any system really, Hood is pretty flexible too, Rudy is the semi-awkward offensive piece (he's great but not as flexible). Fitting with him is what I would let dictate how we build long term at that position.

Answer this question... If Favors played for another team, what would you give up to get him on our team. A first round pick.. two firsts? What would be the most you would give?

 

[Jazz4ever]

I still think we'd be better with a player who is not as good as Favors but fits better. I think if we had a guy like Covington at the four we'd be able to spread guys out and might even be better defensively.

We have been good with the limpy version of Favors and I'm not sure how much more the healthy version of Favors does for us. The healthy version of Favors also will cost a ton. I think if Favs finishes the season with relative health he could fetch a decent asset on the trade market... won't be amazing, but a team with cap space could renegotiate and extend him. Phoenix and Denver would be good candidates there.

Hayward fits any system really, Hood is pretty flexible too, Rudy is the semi-awkward offensive piece (he's great but not as flexible). Fitting with him is what I would let dictate how we build long term at that position.

Answer this question... If Favors played for another team, what would you give up to get him on our team. A first round pick.. two firsts? What would be the most you would give?

He has one year left on a great contract, much like Hill did. So I would say best case 12-16 for a team that needs a center. With this being a strong draft though it could be lower than that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He has one year left on a great contract, much like Hill did. So I would say best case 12-16 for a team that needs a center. With this being a strong draft though it could be lower than that.

What would you give up for him if he was not a Jazz player and you wanted to acquire him... is it the mid round pick?

I would argue a couple differences on his value vs. Hill's he is younger and did produce at a higher level than George did. Probably would lose some points because he doesn't fit in as many situations.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Even while gimpy Favors is having his best career shooting year outside of the paint. The Gobert/Favors 2 man lineup is also the best defensive 2 man lineup in the NBA.

Keeping Hayward/Hill and having Favors 100% healthy is probably our best chance at improving our record from this year to next.

 

[David Stern]

I would start Lyles and shut down Favors. The kid played great as a starter last year, and needs consistent minutes. I get that he's looked terrible lately, but I feel like that's more because he's young and needs a consistent role to play well.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think part of the worry in shutting down favors would be reduced trade value... managing the injury the way they are seems to give little thought to the long term. No doctor, not a trainer, just think there would have to be some long term effects to playing on this or any injury. If it is significant enough to slow him down wouldn't playing on it have some potential for long term issues. If sitting out helps it heal and the guy was in your long term plans wouldn't you tell him to just shut it down.

 

[fishonjazz]

I would start Lyles and shut down Favors. The kid played great as a starter last year, and needs consistent minutes. I get that he's looked terrible lately, but I feel like that's more because he's young and needs a consistent role to play well.

I want to agree with this but I can't

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[Hotdog]

Has he tried putting ice on it?

 

[Engorged On Unborn Gore]

Already when I talk to other Jazz fans they question his heart, his motivation, they believe he doesn't care about winning or competing. If the team shut him down for the season fans would just assume he was a lazy POS.

You know what? Who gives a **** what a bunch of Jazz fans think. I would shut him down and put his health above anything else. I don't care if it's a chronic problem, either. His career is more important than ****ing fanaticism.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You know what? Who gives a **** what a bunch of Jazz fans think. I would shut him down and put his health above anything else. I don't care if it's a chronic problem, either. His career is more important than ****ing fanaticism.

True dat. The old school run some dirt on it and toughen up is the attitude that leads to the negative thinking. Guys are so much faster, stronger, and more skilled now that if you aren't at your peak physically it is much more apparent. Especially a guy like favors that relies on his athleticism for production.

I have no questions about his heart or will... just his health and how he fits with the squad long term.

 

[Jeditiger]

"I know a man with one leg named Favors!"

"So what's the name of his other leg?"

Sorry/not sorry

 

[Lakers_Slapper]

I don't think that there is any question that Derrick Favors is talented. But there is a question towards his conditioning. He came back from his injury out of shape, out of breath and without energy. We need a healthy and motivated Favors headed into the playoffs.