Donald is about to go through some things...

[fishonjazz]

The more you learn about trump the more bad things there are. Mark Cuban:
To be sure, Cuban has been clear that he hasn't always been against Trump.

Cuban said in an August interview with former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy that he "actually started off supporting" Trump.

"I was like, he's great; he's not a typical Stepford candidate. I thought that was a positive," Cuban said of Trump.

"But then I got to know him," Cuban added.

Cuban told Ramaswamy he started to sour on Trump once he took a closer look at the former president's business and political record.

"The bigger point is Trump University. Trump SoHo. Stole $4 million from a friend of mine that had to sue to get it back. Mike Pence," Cuban said, referencing the various controversies surrounding Trump's real-estate training program, luxury hotel, and strained relationship with his vice president.

"He was unethical then, and he's still unethical," Cuban added.

"I truly don't hate him at all. I just think he was and would be a lousy president," Cuban wrote in an X post on Thursday

I hadn't heard the one about trump ripping off Cubans friend for 4 million dollars. But im pretty sure this revelation surprises literally no one.

 

[fishonjazz]

MSN

The September 10 debate saw Vice President Harris maintain her calm and try to answer as many questions as she could. Meanwhile, Trump answered almost every question by bringing up the immigration crisis and blaming “border czar” Harris.

Trump seemed to mostly weaponize the border issue and held it in the face of any question that was raised at the debate, in addition to labeling Harris a “Marxist” and the Democrats “radicals.”

Speaking on the show Piers Morgan Uncensored, the Republican pollster was asked whether he thought Harris won the Presidential debate on Tuesday, to which Luntz replied, “I think more accurately is that Donald Trump lost.”
“And this is not the worst debate performance I’ve seen in my career, but it’s very close to it.”

“The conversations about people eating dogs and cats, calling the leader of Hungary one of the greatest world leaders, repeatedly missing the opportunity to focus on inflation and affordability, and the complete inability to present his point of view without completely tearing into her, into Joe Biden, into whomever was in his sights,” Luntz added.

He further described Trump’s performance at the debate as “negative,” “pessimistic,” “cynical,” and “contemptuous.” (I mean that is just trumps entire campaign and life really)

Luntz added that he believes the former President’s performance at the debate would “cost him” at the November elections. “I’m trying to decide if I wanna go on record, and the answer’s yes. I think that he loses because of this debate performance.”

It is worth noting that in a thread of posts on X, formerly known as Twitter, Luntz had been praising Trump’s Presidential campaign but criticizing the nominee himself prior to the debate. He wrote, “Heading into the home stretch, Trump’s campaign is pretty good this time. His campaign operations are better than 2016 and 2020… But he is not.”

“I have never seen a candidate more determined to blow an election. Instead of talking about affordability and immigration security (the top public issues), Trump is once again screaming about prosecuting his opponents,” Luntz wrote in a separate post. “Message to Donald: Focus on helping voters, not yourself.” (unpossible)

Notably, Trump refused to recognize his loss in the 2020 Presidential elections at the debate and fell back on the “Justice Department is out to get me” rhetoric when the topic of his 34-count felony indictment was raised.

When questioned about his statements over the past few weeks where he said he lost 2020 “by a whisker” – hence acknowledging his defeat in the previous election – Trump replied that he was being “sarcastic.”

Furthermore, Trump claimed that Democrats support the “execution” of a child after birth, to which moderator Linsey Davis pointed out that aborting a child after they are born is actually infanticide, which is illegal in the United States.

Harris responded to Trump’s claim by saying, “Nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. That is not happening. It’s insulting to the women of America.”

 

[Mongoose]

The more you learn about trump the more bad things there are. Mark Cuban:
To be sure, Cuban has been clear that he hasn't always been against Trump.

Cuban said in an August interview with former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy that he "actually started off supporting" Trump.

"I was like, he's great; he's not a typical Stepford candidate. I thought that was a positive," Cuban said of Trump.

"But then I got to know him," Cuban added.

Cuban told Ramaswamy he started to sour on Trump once he took a closer look at the former president's business and political record.

"The bigger point is Trump University. Trump SoHo. Stole $4 million from a friend of mine that had to sue to get it back. Mike Pence," Cuban said, referencing the various controversies surrounding Trump's real-estate training program, luxury hotel, and strained relationship with his vice president.

"He was unethical then, and he's still unethical," Cuban added.

"I truly don't hate him at all. I just think he was and would be a lousy president," Cuban wrote in an X post on Thursday

I hadn't heard the one about trump ripping off Cubans friend for 4 million dollars. But im pretty sure this revelation surprises literally no one.

more hypocrisy from Cuban and Fish
Fish will deflect all day about Bidens responsibilities and how the government is a large organization and the country is a big place with lots of people and Biden cant be personally responsible for everything from the economy to the border etc, yet trump is personally responsible for every action that any employee of his from, bankers, lawyers, building managers, or anyone else affiliated with his multinational corporation.
lol at anyone thinking Mark Cuban is a voice for ethics and truth

 

[fishonjazz]

MSN

Far-right conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer on Friday raised questions about the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, just two days after she accompanied former President Donald Trump at ceremonies commemorating the anniversary of the day.

“The American people deserve to know the entire truth,” Loomer wrote in a post on X, formerly Twitter. “Not just what our lying government chose to tell us.”

The far-right activist has recently made racist posts about Vice President Kamala Harris, saying the White House would “smell like curry” if she were elected. The comment even drew the ire of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), who has embraced hateful rhetoric in the past. (when its too low for MTG then there is definitely and issue)

Trump’s decision to include Loomer as part of his entourage at ceremonies in New York and Pennsylvania on Wednesday drew criticism from Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), one of his allies in Congress, who called her past comments “disturbing.”
“I think that the president would serve himself well to make sure this doesn’t become a bigger story,” Graham said.

“Republicans attacking me are simply jealous that they were not on the plane with President Trump,” Loomer wrote.

 

[fishonjazz]

During his press conference on Friday, Trump vowed that if reelected he would conduct mass deportations of immigrants in Springfield. "We're going to have the largest deportation in the history of our country," he said. "And we're going to start with Springfield"

In recent years, thousands of Haitian immigrants have resettled legally in Springfield after having fled violence and political turmoil in their home country. He wants to deport people who are in the US legally folks. You heard it right from his own mouth.

I wonder if he will also deport his wife Melania as well. She too is an immigrant.

 

[JFFR]

Quick question -

Is there any evidence that the 2020 election was stolen? I'm open to looking at it. I might even consider voting for Trump if the evidence is real. I can't find it but I'm not on Truth social and don't really follow conservative news sites. Please, someone, show me some evidence. Are all the MAGAs really just believe Trump without proof?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Quick question -

Is there any evidence that the 2020 election was stolen? I'm open to looking at it. I might even consider voting for Trump if the evidence is real. I can't find it but I'm not on Truth social and don't really follow conservative news sites. Please, someone, show me some evidence. Are all the MAGAs really just believe Trump without proof?

It depends on what you mean by "stolen". If you are asking for evidence of illegally cast ballots, hacked machines, or criminal activity on a level large enough to have changed the outcome of the election, there isn't any. There was the odd vote here and there with issues but in the context of the millions of votes cast in the election, it was miniscule.

However, the voting rules in the 2020 election were radically changed in many states in a way that may not have been entirely legal. Two states where it is easy to see the effects of those changes were in Michigan and Wisconsin. The laws were changed in a way that allowed active collection of ballots in a way that had not been previously allowed. The harvested ballots being dropped off is visible as a vertical spike in the count. Without that vertical spike, which wouldn't have been allowed prior to 2020, Biden would have lost those states. To be clear, those votes are not fraud. They are real votes.

The effect was so pronounced that Joe Biden got a larger percentage of the vote from Black voters in Detroit than Barrack Obama received. Joe wasn't more popular than Obama. It was the rules changes. That is where the "steal" happened, and those rules are still in place. The 2024 election is for show. No GOP candidate can win a Presidential election so long as those active ground game regulations remain in place. Senile Old Joe, who finally beat Medicare, would have beat Trump if he'd stayed on the ballot, but it would have led to a lot more questions being asked about the system. Kamala winning will be much easier to explain.

 

[fishonjazz]

It depends on what you mean by "stolen". If you are asking for evidence of illegally cast ballots, hacked machines, or criminal activity on a level large enough to have changed the outcome of the election, there isn't any. There was the odd vote here and there with issues but in the context of the millions of votes cast in the election, it was miniscule.

However, the voting rules in the 2020 election were radically changed in many states in a way that may not have been entirely legal. Two states where it is easy to see the effects of those changes were in Michigan and Wisconsin. The laws were changed in a way that allowed active collection of ballots in a way that had not been previously allowed. The harvested ballots being dropped off is visible as a vertical spike in the count. Without that vertical spike, which wouldn't have been allowed prior to 2020, Biden would have lost those states. To be clear, those votes are not fraud. They are real votes.

The effect was so pronounced that Joe Biden got a larger percentage of the vote from Black voters in Detroit than Barrack Obama received. Joe wasn't more popular than Obama. It was the rules changes. That is where the "steal" happened, and those rules are still in place. The 2024 election is for show. No GOP candidate can win a Presidential election so long as those active ground game regulations remain in place. Senile Old Joe, who finally beat Medicare, would have beat Trump if he'd stayed on the ballot, but it would have led to a lot more questions being asked about the system. Kamala winning will be much easier to explain.

What's weird is that trump never explains that it was stolen in this manner. Seems like it would be a good idea for him to bring this up. I wonder why he doesn't.
Just pure stupidity maybe?

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[fishonjazz]

More lies from trump

Germany responds to Donald Trump's debate comments

Germany took to social media to rebut comments made by former President Donald Trump during the presidential debate Tuesday about the country's renewable energy industry.

www.cbsnews.com

Germany is denying an assertion made by former President Donald Trump during the presidential debate Tuesday about the country's renewable energy industry.

"You believe in things like we're not going to frack, we're not going to take fossil fuel, we're not going to do things that are going to be strong, whether you like it or not," Trump said in his debate against Vice President Kamala Harris. "Germany tried that, and within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants."

But on Wednesday, Germany's Federal Foreign Office decided to issue a rebuttal, echoing the former president's language.

"Like it or not: Germany's energy system is fully operational, with more than 50% renewables," the Federal Foreign Office shared on X. "And we are shutting down – not building – coal & nuclear plants. Coal will be off the grid by 2038 at the latest."

The German Foreign Office also poked at Trump for another comment he made during the debate.

"PS: We also don't eat cats and dogs,"

"Contradiction with facts and humor — that is the right answer to disinformation," German State Minister Anna Lührmann added on Thursday about her government's response.



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[JFFR]

It depends on what you mean by "stolen". If you are asking for evidence of illegally cast ballots, hacked machines, or criminal activity on a level large enough to have changed the outcome of the election, there isn't any. There was the odd vote here and there with issues but in the context of the millions of votes cast in the election, it was miniscule.

However, the voting rules in the 2020 election were radically changed in many states in a way that may not have been entirely legal. Two states where it is easy to see the effects of those changes were in Michigan and Wisconsin. The laws were changed in a way that allowed active collection of ballots in a way that had not been previously allowed. The harvested ballots being dropped off is visible as a vertical spike in the count. Without that vertical spike, which wouldn't have been allowed prior to 2020, Biden would have lost those states. To be clear, those votes are not fraud. They are real votes.

The effect was so pronounced that Joe Biden got a larger percentage of the vote from Black voters in Detroit than Barrack Obama received. Joe wasn't more popular than Obama. It was the rules changes. That is where the "steal" happened, and those rules are still in place. The 2024 election is for show. No GOP candidate can win a Presidential election so long as those active ground game regulations remain in place. Senile Old Joe, who finally beat Medicare, would have beat Trump if he'd stayed on the ballot, but it would have led to a lot more questions being asked about the system. Kamala winning will be much easier to explain.

Thank you! Where did you get those graphs, is it easy for you to link me to them? Are there blogs, website, etc that go over things like this?


To be clear, what you are saying is that Trump lost because more people had access to voting? As a Republican, it has been disappointing to me that instead of winning by doing a better job of communicating their principles, the Republican Party has decided it's a better strategy to make voting more difficult.

I do think hiding the laptop story was a form of fraud that influenced the race.

 

[Sardines]

More lies from trump

Germany responds to Donald Trump's debate comments

Germany took to social media to rebut comments made by former President Donald Trump during the presidential debate Tuesday about the country's renewable energy industry.

www.cbsnews.com

Germany is denying an assertion made by former President Donald Trump during the presidential debate Tuesday about the country's renewable energy industry.

"You believe in things like we're not going to frack, we're not going to take fossil fuel, we're not going to do things that are going to be strong, whether you like it or not," Trump said in his debate against Vice President Kamala Harris. "Germany tried that, and within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants."

But on Wednesday, Germany's Federal Foreign Office decided to issue a rebuttal, echoing the former president's language.

"Like it or not: Germany's energy system is fully operational, with more than 50% renewables," the Federal Foreign Office shared on X. "And we are shutting down – not building – coal & nuclear plants. Coal will be off the grid by 2038 at the latest."

The German Foreign Office also poked at Trump for another comment he made during the debate.

"PS: We also don't eat cats and dogs,"

"Contradiction with facts and humor — that is the right answer to disinformation," German State Minister Anna Lührmann added on Thursday about her government's response.



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If there's one thing the Germans are known for it is their legendary sense of humor.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

To be clear, what you are saying is that Trump lost because more people had access to voting?

No. It has nothing to do with access to voting. The strategy exploits how Americans are broadly apathetic toward elections. Voter participation going all the way back to the 1930's typically lands somewhere between 55% and 60%. The rate varies significantly by age, with 60+ year olds around 70% turnout and 18-29 year olds around 40% turnout. Among races since the 2012 election, Black Americans have the highest turnout rate at 66%, followed by White Americans at 64%, Hispanic Americans at 48%, and Asian Americans at 47%.

The rules changes did nothing to increase access. What the rules changes did was allow campaigns to actively go to voters and solicit votes. Prior to 2020, campaigns weren't allowed to campaign within several hundred feet of a polling place. Observers were allowed but there were strict limits on any act that could be considered to bias the voters. For the 2020 election, prohibitions were lifted that allowed campaign staff to stand right next to a voter filling out a ballot and immediately take possession of the ballot.

Increased turnout at the polls does not cause a vertical spike in the vote count. Increased use of mail-in ballots does not cause a vertical spike in the vote count. Ballot harvesting causes that spike as the campaign staff returns with the votes filled out in their presence which they took possession of. The votes are all for one candidate because the staff works for the campaign, and they are all at the same time because they are operating on a provided schedule.

Because 40%-45% of American voters don't vote, there is a massive pool of potential votes legally allowed to be influenced by campaign staff and gathered. The active ground game now decides elections. Ideas, and even popularity of a candidate are of lesser relevance than how well organized the ground game is and how much money can be poured in to the harvesting effort.

Increasing voter access by allowing vote by phone or vote by computer, and allowing voters to change their vote all the way up to the deadline on election day would fix the problem, which is why we don't have it, and won't have it. For the system to work, they need all voters to have ballots in their possession, but have the returning of the ballots just hard enough that a massive number of people will be too lazy to do it on their own, and for changing votes after campaign staff has left with the ballot to be impossible.