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It's a tree that grows in SE Asia. The leaves have properties similar to opium but supposedly without the adverse effects.
It's a tree that grows in SE Asia. The leaves have properties similar to opium but supposedly without the adverse effects.
Yes. It sneaks up on you. Anyone that claims it's a miracle drug that's not addicting is still in the delusional phase. It got so bad for me the shakes started to occur 2 hours after a dose. I quit cold turkey and the withdrawals were some the worst I've ever experienced. Don't do it unless your only alternative is something like heroin.Anyone here ever try kratom?
4) Legalization with regulation seems like the best course of action as it would bring the people out of the shadows and make it easier to allocate more of the treatment cost to distributors/manufacturers/users.
How large of a dose were you taking?Yes. It sneaks up on you. Anyone that claims it's a miracle drug that's not addicting is still in the delusional phase. It got so bad for me the shakes started to occur 2 hours after a dose. I quit cold turkey and the withdrawals were some the worst I've ever experienced. Don't do it unless your only alternative is something like heroin.
My wife tried it but it didn't help with her chronic pain. From what I've read it does help some people.I've read that CBD oil is good for pain, but I suspect that's only for mild, arthritis-type pain. Has anyone here used it for pain?
When it comes to abuse of opioids I don't think it's a pain management issue, it's a mental health management issue.
While they may have started taking opioids because of some pain issue, the folks that get hooked on this stuff are suffering from some type of undiagnosed clinical depression.
Started at 5 g/day and eventually got to 12-15g/day. When I quit I was around 20-25g a day. I felt like everyone else thinking it was amazing. At about the 4~ish month mark I knew I was probably in trouble. Is it as bad/addicting as hard core drugs? No. Am I being a little dramatic? Probably, but I've seen enough from myself and others it's best not to mess with it unless you have too. Guess that's obvious for most though. Seen too many going into it just to dabble because of their friends thinking it's harmless and it's not.How large of a dose were you taking?
For what it's worth CBD oil is not an opioid.
Holy crap, that's a lot! From everything I have read 3-4 grams should be the max and you should work up to that.Started at 5 g/day and eventually got to 12-15g/day. When I quit I was around 20-25g a day. I felt like everyone else thinking it was amazing. At about the 4~ish month mark I knew I was probably in trouble. Is it as bad/addicting as hard core drugs? No. Am I being a little dramatic? Probably, but I've seen enough from myself and others it's best not to mess with it unless you have too. Guess that's obvious for most though. Seen too many going into it just to dabble because of their friends thinking it's harmless and it's not.
LOL, like weed but without the hallucinations.You can get it at a lot of smoke shops around. It does something, but I can't really explain what. I was only taking the standard dose(two capsules). I know a guy that takes eight at once, and he once told me it's like weed without the paranoia and hallucinations.
I see Kratom in the news a lot recently, seemingly trying to make a connection between kratom and adverse drug deaths. But in every single case I've seen, not a one of them listed kratom as a cause. Merely that it's there.
I don't really get #4. That perfectly describes prescriptions drugs, which is what exists now.1) I sometimes feel like a lot of the discussion minimizes/understates the responsibility of the drug user. People are asking for trouble and taking a risk every time they use these products. Sometimes use can't be avoided or is the best course of action, but if you are responsible it is very rare that it turns into an addiction. The opioid problem is serious enough that everyone can get a fair share of blame (doctors, big pharma, dealers, law makers, families, etc.) while also recognizing nearly all of the addicts could have avoided the situation.
2) I think most of the solution could be obtained through greater/better education (children, legitimate users, illegal users, family, doctors, law makers).
3) Treatment should be provided, but should not reduce the responsibility of actions taken while under the influence (e.g., should not be used to reduce legal sentence).
4) Legalization with regulation seems like the best course of action as it would bring the people out of the shadows and make it easier to allocate more of the treatment cost to distributors/manufacturers/users.
LOL, like weed but without the hallucinations.
I have never known anyone who claimed to have hallucinations on weed.