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Eminence's 'Dream Team'

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Eminence

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Ok, so first off it's not exactly a Dream Team, more like a team that came to me in a dream. I was just thinking about what some of our wants/needs as a team are and how I would fix them given the keys to the franchise. This team just kind of coalesced in my head whilst doing that. At first glance to me it doesn't seem too outlandish to assemble (not likely, but not impossible to do it). I'm looking for what everyone else thinks about the idea's feasibility and advisability I guess.

Couple things about my team building in general; I like to have units in complete groups(starters/bench and so on) to go about 10 deep, I like some continuity between starters/bench as in players have similar roles just within different units, and I need pretty much everybody to play at least some defense.

Firstly, the team needs I feel we need to fix (in my order of importance) if we want to be a playoff team next year while still having large room for growth:
1. PG play- Exum/Burke together aren't cutting it. I don't think either of them are busts or anything, they just aren't ready. So somebody a bit more proven here would be nice.
2. Backup for Gobert- We basically have no big-man presence off the bench right now.
3. Bit of roster overlap- I think Hood/Burks kind of overlap as 6th-man scorer types and I'm not really sure we need the both of them. Personally I prefer Hood slightly (think he's a better defender) so he's the one I'll be hanging on to, but I could see Burks being your preference as well.
4. Lack of shooting- Tough to get a ton of shooting with Favors/Gobert as the starters, but I do think we could stand to improve it in general.

So on to the team I guess:
3rd Team-End of bench guys. There for locker room moral, specialist roles, or possibly to develop.
C- Jack Cooley- Just seems like a solid effort guy to have around.
PF- Jeremy Evans- Buddies with Gordon, seems great for practice or end of bench duty.
SF- Joe Ingles- Love Ingles, but don't think it's a great sign if he's in our regular rotation.
SG- Elijah Millsap- Great defender, could be more if he develops a passable spot up shot.
PG- George Lucas de Paula- Project guy, grab him with a late 1st/early 2nd. I prefer bringing him in to learn under Quin over not overseeing his development.

2nd Team- Regular rotation minutes for all these boys. I'm heavy on the youth in this group and the most moves would have to be made to bring them all together, but I think they could gel pretty well.
C- Mouhammadou Jaiteh- French centers are good luck right? But seriously I think having Rudy could really help with his development and he has all the physical tools. Could eventually control the paint from the bench.
PF- Richaun Holmes- I see an Amare that plays defense when I see his peak. Great athlete, some shooting to pair with our other bigs.
SF- Rondae Hollis-Jefferson- Lock-down defender off the bench. If his offense develops he could be the steal of the draft. Probably the toughest of the guys in this group for us to get, not sure what assets we'd have to move to get him.
SG- Rodney Hood- Really impressed with him in his first season, I think he'd be great for carrying the offensive load for a bench squad, probably would receive heavier than normal bench minutes.
PG- Dante Exum- I think he needs more time to develop before handling full-time starter minutes on a playoff caliber team. For now would have more of a chance to show his stuff and grow while coming off the bench.

1st Team- Two new guys in this group, partly about fit with our big three of Hayward/Favors/Gobert.
C- Rudy Gobert- No question here, anchor for our great defense. Hopefully can add one or two reliable moves to his offense.
PF- Derrick Favors- Another no doubter. I'd like to see him slim down just a hair if he's to be our four going forward instead of a hybrid PF/C.
SF- Gordon Hayward- Can run the offense through him as kind of a mini-Harden. Great all-around player.
SG- Devin Booker- We could grab him with our #12 pick I think. Would add some much needed shooting to the starting lineup, without needing the ball in his hands a whole lot. Defensively is my biggest worry but he showed good length and elite quickness at the combine so I have faith that a young guy like him could pick it up. Would probably actually play fewer minutes than Hood, but with the starting lineup due to fit (needing a scorer off the bench, but really only a shooter with the starters).
PG- Milos Teodosic- Along with RHJ the most difficult to get. But Quin is big on him and if he were willing to come over we could certainly afford him. Could take a lot of the offensive pressure off Hayward. Not really sure about his defense, but his size is good and I've never heard any major concerns about it.

So there ya go, what does everybody think? Any ideas on how to bring it all together?(I see Boston with #28 and #33 as a potential trade partner)

New guys: Teodosic (FA), Booker (#12), RHJ (mid-first), Holmes (late-first), Jaiteh (late-first), De Paula (late-first)

Former guys: Burke (probably trade, could see him landing us a late-first), Burks (not really sure how the heck we'd move him, the biggest flaw to me in my master plan), Booker (could be moved, allowed to walk, kept on, lots of options here)
 
You're absolutely bonkers if you think the FO would bring in that many new guys. Ever. But especially after the chemistry that was developed last year. I also LOLed at the idea that we somehow scraped together 4 additional first round picks in a single year. Has this ever happened for any franchise, braugh?
 
You're absolutely bonkers if you think the FO would bring in that many new guys. Ever. But especially after the chemistry that was developed last year. I also LOLed at the idea that we somehow scraped together 4 additional first round picks in a single year. Has this ever happened for any franchise, braugh?

6 new guys out of 15 is crazy? Losing 2.5 people who played significant minutes last season (Burke/Booker .5 Burks). Yeah, it's not really that wild at all.

The picks are a stretch for sure, I listed every guy at their peak draft choice in my mind in a 'guarantee we get them' sort of idea, but some (Jaiteh/Holmes in particular) could be there much later into the mid 2nd. The picks would certainly be the crazy part of it, but we need to turn all those future picks into players sometime, why not now?
 
6 new guys out of 15 is crazy? Losing 2.5 people who played significant minutes last season (Burke/Booker .5 Burks). Yeah, it's not really that wild at all.

The picks are a stretch for sure, I listed every guy at their peak draft choice in my mind in a 'guarantee we get them' sort of idea, but some (Jaiteh/Holmes in particular) could be there much later into the mid 2nd. The picks would certainly be the crazy part of it, but we need to turn all those future picks into players sometime, why not now?

where's the zero option in your poll?
 
LMAO, That is a garbage team who will be lottery pick year after year, Stick to being a fan and nota GM. Laughable that roster. Booker is soft as **** and you want him as SF?????LMAO... That's more of a nightmare then a dream team
 
Ignore the haters Eminence. Some people just can't handle anyone new. They seem incapable of being nice.
 
LMAO, That is a garbage team who will be lottery pick year after year, Stick to being a fan and nota GM. Laughable that roster. Booker is soft as **** and you want him as SF?????LMAO... That's more of a nightmare then a dream team

Man, if you're gonna go that hard you at least gotta read it. :( Booker is clearly listed at SG.

And I'm interested in where you think we are at right now? Cause I think we're borderline playoffs right now, and you seem to be of the opinion that removing Burke(an all around net negative this season) and Booker(good energy guy) turns us into a perennial lottery team? Interesting take, completely off base in my opinion, but interesting.
 
why was it interesting for you?

1. He clearly put effort into it
2. Interesting for me to see others takes on where the Jazz are and what the Jazz need as a team
3. Intersting to see others takes on individual players
4. I see no point in being a jerk
5. More posters the better
6. Good thread that could lead to discussion about which route to take in more draft picks v. trades (not that this hasn't been done over and over)
 
1. He clearly put effort into it
2. Interesting for me to see others takes on where the Jazz are and what the Jazz need as a team
3. Intersting to see others takes on individual players
4. I see no point in being a jerk
5. More posters the better
6. Good thread that could lead to discussion about which route to take in more draft picks v. trades (not that this hasn't been done over and over)

So all it takes for you is to (a) invent a never-before-seen scenario (i.e. 5 first-round draft picks) and (b) some very short player profiles? ok
 
Ignore the haters Eminence. Some people just can't handle anyone new. They seem incapable of being nice.

Thanks for the support :) And not too worried, pretty sure ncoloradojazz didn't even actually read it.

Could I get a bit of your opinion on it? Biggest problem is obviously the huge amount of youth (which in turn could cause problems when re-signing Hayward and the like). Picks are also obviously a stretch and have never happened before, but I wouldn't say it's not possible with the future assets we have stockpiled.

In my opinion we should either use those assets to grab what we view as a sure-fire stud to pair with our core, or move them to take several chances (eg De Paula). But either way I think now is the time for us to seriously look at making that move.
 
So all it takes for you is to (a) invent a never-before-seen scenario (i.e. 5 first-round draft picks) and (b) some very short player profiles? ok

I'm not sorry I can go with the flow and think an idea out without attacking as you and NColorado have. Even if it is highly unlikely to happen.

You could have prposed alternatives for certain players or even alternative ideas. Instead you attacked.

Knock it off.
 
You're absolutely bonkers if you think the FO would bring in that many new guys. Ever. But especially after the chemistry that was developed last year. I also LOLed at the idea that we somehow scraped together 4 additional first round picks in a single year. Has this ever happened for any franchise, braugh?

^this wasn't a hateful thing to say. At all

6 new guys out of 15 is crazy? Losing 2.5 people who played significant minutes last season (Burke/Booker .5 Burks). Yeah, it's not really that wild at all.

The picks are a stretch for sure, I listed every guy at their peak draft choice in my mind in a 'guarantee we get them' sort of idea, but some (Jaiteh/Holmes in particular) could be there much later into the mid 2nd. The picks would certainly be the crazy part of it, but we need to turn all those future picks into players sometime, why not now?

^this was his follow-up. It ignored my questions about precedent, so I left a shorter reply.

Stoked is too sensitive
 
I'm not sorry I can go with the flow and think an idea out without attacking as you and NColorado have. Even if it is highly unlikely to happen.

You could have prposed alternatives for certain players or even alternative ideas. Instead you attacked.

Knock it off.

stfu
 
Some questions:

Why George Lucas de Paula over Cotton. Seems like an uneccesary change only for the sake of making a change. COtton has earned it.

Why 10 deep when playoff rotations are not that deep? Usually 8-9 guys.

I see that Booker, Burks and Burke are MIA. You mention that you have no idea how this would happen. Did you look to see what range these players in the draft are going at? That might help you come up with some of your own ideas.

Why the desire to revamp our wings when you have Hayward, Hood, Burks and Millsap under contract? That is a nice collection. Who do you see as the weak link and why?
 
^this wasn't a hateful thing to say. At all



^this was his follow-up. It ignored my questions about precedent, so I left a shorter reply.

Stoked is too sensitive

You acted like a jerk and got called on it. By one of the posters that is friendliest to you no less.

Can we still be "friends"?
 
You acted like a jerk and got called on it. By one of the posters that is friendliest to you no less.

Can we still be "friends"?

a jerk, eh?

Sorry you're having a tough morning, gui. Sooo sensitive.
 
a jerk, eh?

Sorry you're having a tough morning, gui. Sooo sensitive.

I cried into my coke this morning, twice. Damn estrogen pills.

Sorry me calling you out upset you. Bro hug?
 
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