fallenchicken
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First check Rudy's twitter feed: he says they'll be fine and I trust him more than anyone.
I'm seeing a lot of fire quin threads, and surprisingly--a lot of Trade Mitchell stuff. That's crazy to me. You might like Gobert better. He might be more consistent in the regular season, might even be more important. But in the post season, we can only go as far as Mitchell can take us. if you don't have an offensive star than you can't win. And if you don't believe he can take us very far--think hard about the last couple decades. Mitchell is the best chance we'd had in a very long time.
So take a breath.
The Jazz played horrible in Indiana and Detroit, no doubt about it. This team has some serious concerns, weaknesses. No doubt about it. But the fanbase, here and on twitter and everywhere, is having a total meltdown. If our fans were running things, they'd blow up the team after every loss. The jazz are going to get through their covid rough patch and will put together a win streak and everyone will change their tune. This same meltdown happens every year. Trust me as someone who as been following this team for two decades now, if you are living and dying by every game in the NBA season, no matter what team you're rooting for, you're going to put yourself through a lot of mental anguish.
Frankly, and everyone knows this but pretends otherwise, the nba season plays a lot of games that don't matter. The NBA plays a regular season schedule that is too long. Every team goes through bad play, especially this year, and every team will have games where they shoot like **** and every team will have games where the players don't try hard enough, like last night. And it has nothing to do with the post season. There is no correlation. It's the NBA's dirtiest secret--and probably a reason why long-term viewership of the regular season trends down.
My point is this: whether the jazz can win a championship or not has nothing to do with last night's game. At the end of the season, it won't matter. Just like last year, we dominated the entire season and were far and away the best team in the league... and it didn't matter. We still got merked in the second round. You should not want to suddenly panic trade your star, or fire your coach, because of a sloppy game in Detroit in the dog days before the all star break while your team is going through their covid outbreak. If you really want to blow up the best Jazz team that i am old enough to remember, at least be consistent. Don't be reacting to every single game.
The Jazz have serious issues and i don't know if they could win or not--I think it depends on health, and the way the seeding plays out. Jazz would have to get lucky, just like phoenix and the bucks got lucky last year when the league crumbled around them. Unless there is a super team, and there are no super teams in the league currently, someone gets lucky every year. I think the Jazz probably have a 15% chance. Maybe if they could pull off a small trade, they could get it to 20%--though this would be very hard to do. It's hard to make a trade to get better when you don't have young assets. But still, there's a chance. Maybe you're less optimistic than me, and you think we only have a 10% percent chance. Still, think hard about that ten percent chance. It's the best chance we've had since stockton and malone. Mitchell is under contract for three more years. We don't need to panic trade him because ESPN wants us to. Why not try our luck? Remember, last season Brian Windhorst was on his podcast talking about Giannis forcing his way off the bucks if they under performed in the playoffs last year. That franchise was at its lowest point after losing to Miami in the first round. But then things broke their way and now Giannis is probably a buck for life. Why not give ourselves a chance to get lucky before we go back to being a team that plays hard gritty defense every night, but is stuck in the middle of the pack, with almost no chance to win at all.
I'm seeing a lot of fire quin threads, and surprisingly--a lot of Trade Mitchell stuff. That's crazy to me. You might like Gobert better. He might be more consistent in the regular season, might even be more important. But in the post season, we can only go as far as Mitchell can take us. if you don't have an offensive star than you can't win. And if you don't believe he can take us very far--think hard about the last couple decades. Mitchell is the best chance we'd had in a very long time.
So take a breath.
The Jazz played horrible in Indiana and Detroit, no doubt about it. This team has some serious concerns, weaknesses. No doubt about it. But the fanbase, here and on twitter and everywhere, is having a total meltdown. If our fans were running things, they'd blow up the team after every loss. The jazz are going to get through their covid rough patch and will put together a win streak and everyone will change their tune. This same meltdown happens every year. Trust me as someone who as been following this team for two decades now, if you are living and dying by every game in the NBA season, no matter what team you're rooting for, you're going to put yourself through a lot of mental anguish.
Frankly, and everyone knows this but pretends otherwise, the nba season plays a lot of games that don't matter. The NBA plays a regular season schedule that is too long. Every team goes through bad play, especially this year, and every team will have games where they shoot like **** and every team will have games where the players don't try hard enough, like last night. And it has nothing to do with the post season. There is no correlation. It's the NBA's dirtiest secret--and probably a reason why long-term viewership of the regular season trends down.
My point is this: whether the jazz can win a championship or not has nothing to do with last night's game. At the end of the season, it won't matter. Just like last year, we dominated the entire season and were far and away the best team in the league... and it didn't matter. We still got merked in the second round. You should not want to suddenly panic trade your star, or fire your coach, because of a sloppy game in Detroit in the dog days before the all star break while your team is going through their covid outbreak. If you really want to blow up the best Jazz team that i am old enough to remember, at least be consistent. Don't be reacting to every single game.
The Jazz have serious issues and i don't know if they could win or not--I think it depends on health, and the way the seeding plays out. Jazz would have to get lucky, just like phoenix and the bucks got lucky last year when the league crumbled around them. Unless there is a super team, and there are no super teams in the league currently, someone gets lucky every year. I think the Jazz probably have a 15% chance. Maybe if they could pull off a small trade, they could get it to 20%--though this would be very hard to do. It's hard to make a trade to get better when you don't have young assets. But still, there's a chance. Maybe you're less optimistic than me, and you think we only have a 10% percent chance. Still, think hard about that ten percent chance. It's the best chance we've had since stockton and malone. Mitchell is under contract for three more years. We don't need to panic trade him because ESPN wants us to. Why not try our luck? Remember, last season Brian Windhorst was on his podcast talking about Giannis forcing his way off the bucks if they under performed in the playoffs last year. That franchise was at its lowest point after losing to Miami in the first round. But then things broke their way and now Giannis is probably a buck for life. Why not give ourselves a chance to get lucky before we go back to being a team that plays hard gritty defense every night, but is stuck in the middle of the pack, with almost no chance to win at all.
