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Favors got extended

That's not what I'M talking about. Shots challenged by Sanders close to the basket have the lowest ratio to result in points ;) Favors is not in the same category yet.
I feel the Jazz got kinda raped by the early extension. Early extension means financial security for the player. The Jazz didn't get a discount here. 3rd year extensions are either financial trade offs or it's a franchise player who you want to stay happy at any cost.
But since Favors views himself as PF I compare him to Taj Gibson. Taj is also a better defender at this point. Derrick is younger with more upside. Offensively they are similar in efficiency IMO at this point. Taj got 4 yrs $33M. If I factor in expected development for Favors I'd say an early extension at $42M would have been a fair price. Now he has the benjamins incoming and can pull a Tyrus Thomas or get hurt. That's why I think that's a horrible contract. Didn't the Jazz hire a former agent to be assistant GM?

You could be right... But I think we will all be happy with this deal by mid-season!!
 
You could be right... But I think we will all be happy with this deal by mid-season!!

If he's doing 15 and 10 and battles for an all defense 2nd team spot you're right. That would be kind of a huge improvement from last season. I don't like bold predictions. They're called bold for a reason. But it doesn't matter too much, since it expires when the 2014 first rounders come off their rookie contract. By then we'll know his real value.
 
Props to the Jazz for getting that done. Wow.

At the very least Favors is a great defender and good rebounder, and a pretty good offensive player with a lot of upside.

I'm surprised Favors camp decided to bite.
 
I'll be surprised if it's not a contract with raises.

Surprised enough to bet on it?

I can't think of a single reason for either the Jazz or Favors to take a descending contract outside the incentive clause which would be progressive. Getting his money up front is beneficial for him, and it's beneficial for the Jazz with their current salary structure.

Bet?
 
Sounded like Favors really didn't want to go to a different team and liked it here in Utah. Also I think almost every other team would have paid him the same amount to get him. I think we saved some money here.
 
That's not what I'M talking about. Shots challenged by Sanders close to the basket have the lowest ratio to result in points ;) Favors is not in the same category yet.
I feel the Jazz got kinda raped by the early extension. Early extension means financial security for the player. The Jazz didn't get a discount here. 3rd year extensions are either financial trade offs or it's a franchise player who you want to stay happy at any cost.
But since Favors views himself as PF I compare him to Taj Gibson. Taj is also a better defender at this point. Derrick is younger with more upside. Offensively they are similar in efficiency IMO at this point. Taj got 4 yrs $33M. If I factor in expected development for Favors I'd say an early extension at $42M would have been a fair price. Now he has the benjamins incoming and can pull a Tyrus Thomas or get hurt. That's why I think that's a horrible contract. Didn't the Jazz hire a former agent to be assistant GM?

It won't be popular but there is a lot of merit to what you're saying. Noah is getting $12/per. He is my baseline comp for Favors.
 
That's not what I'M talking about. Shots challenged by Sanders close to the basket have the lowest ratio to result in points ;) Favors is not in the same category yet.
I feel the Jazz got kinda raped by the early extension. Early extension means financial security for the player. The Jazz didn't get a discount here. 3rd year extensions are either financial trade offs or it's a franchise player who you want to stay happy at any cost.
But since Favors views himself as PF I compare him to Taj Gibson. Taj is also a better defender at this point. Derrick is younger with more upside. Offensively they are similar in efficiency IMO at this point. Taj got 4 yrs $33M. If I factor in expected development for Favors I'd say an early extension at $42M would have been a fair price. Now he has the benjamins incoming and can pull a Tyrus Thomas or get hurt. That's why I think that's a horrible contract. Didn't the Jazz hire a former agent to be assistant GM?

Taj isn't a fair comp. He doesn't have the same body or upside.
 
Seems like a reasonable amount to me... as long as Favors develops some sort of offensive game. It's right in line what I expected, although I had feared Favors' agent would have an inflated view of his worth and try to hold out for a higher amount.
 
Only 4M more than Larry Sanders and his offense is far less than Favors minimal offense!!!

Sanders averaged just under 10/10/3 last season in 27 mins. I have no doubt Derrick can do the same, although he'll be sharing the glass with Kanter. Only concern is keeping out of foul trouble. I knew - and predicted - he'd get a contract around the $11-13M range. Capable Bigs ALWAYS earn at a premium. KOC and Lindsey are both experienced GM's. I trust they had a pretty good idea what he might get as a RFA. Better to build the goodwill now by locking him up. Now it's time for Gordon to sign a deal. I predict he'll get a bit more due to his offensive skills.
 
Taj isn't a fair comp. He doesn't have the same body or upside.
Agree. Favors is more than capable of - and will - slide over to the 5 when Kanter sits. Taj cannot defend the 5. He's also not a very good rebounder. I agree with using Sanders or Noah as comps. Sanders took a huge leap forward last season when he started getting PT. I think Derrick will do the same. Favors no doubt impressed the Jazz with his request to work with Malone - remember, it was reported Derrick approached the coaching staff about contacting Karl. He's also been very flattering with what he's said about wanting to stay with the Jazz. Kudos to the organization for rewarding his loyalty and commitment. Could the Jazz have saved $1M/per? Perhaps. Could someone have stepped in and offered $14/per if he has a breakout season? There's always that risk. Jazz have offended some players by letting them "shop the market" to gauge their value. Far better feelings between Favors and management/ownership than what happened with the Millsap/Portland situation.
 
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