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Favors Looking Thin

Ellipse said:
Doesn't it ever get old? This perpetual concern over Player X leaving "after next season" for greener pastures?
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Perpetual?
DWill, Hayward and Favors. Were there others? Guess you can throw in Hill, but a lot of people thought he might turn out to be a 1-yr rental.
 
If the Jazz unload Burks somehow, and assuming Joe Johnson leaves, that opens a bit of space. This year's free agents are on one-year deals. So that helps a little. It all depends on the market for Dante and Hood. It's a gamble.
 
Jack Strop said:
Perpetual?
DWill, Hayward and Favors. Were there others? Guess you can throw in Hill, but a lot of people thought he might turn out to be a 1-yr rental.
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The Jazz traded DWill in large part because they didn't want to max him. I guess you could add Millsap to the list though.
 
Favors is very fragile. He knows he's a free agent. It's good to see that he's going to do anything he can to get his value up.

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
No, they wanted to max him, he just wouldn't verbally commit to the franchise long-term.
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I take a different view on it:

After Larry died, Greg and Kevin took the ultra passive approach and maintained the same team for three years, seeeimg us get bumped by the Lakers each year in successively less games. This passive approach was not appreciated by Deron. It eventually came to a head with the emerging Deron/Sloan conflict and management tried to make sure the boat didn't rock and were passive on committing to any specific direction (i.e. leaving Sloan to not be fully supported because of Deron's star power, and not really keeping Deron happy because they weren't really looking to improve the team [I ain't talking financially]).

Fast forward to the blow up and it was openly exposed how poorly they managed this situation that they allowed it to reach a point where it pushed out a legendary coach who had the most tenure with a franchise in all of professional sports -- something they took for granted and didn't think would really happen. Trading Deron, in my view, was less about the fear of him not re-signing and more about them saving face and attempting to atone for their misdeeds.
 
infection said:
I take a different view on it:

After Larry died, Greg and Kevin took the ultra passive approach and maintained the same team for three years, seeeimg us get bumped by the Lakers each year in successively less games. This passive approach was not appreciated by Deron. It eventually came to a head with the emerging Deron/Sloan conflict and management tried to make sure the boat didn't rock and were passive on committing to any specific direction (i.e. leaving Sloan to not be fully supported because of Deron's star power, and not really keeping Deron happy because they weren't really looking to improve the team [I ain't talking financially]).

Fast forward to the blow up and it was openly exposed how poorly they managed this situation that they allowed it to reach a point where it pushed out a legendary coach who had the most tenure with a franchise in all of professional sports -- something they took for granted and didn't think would really happen. Trading Deron, in my view, was less about the fear of him not re-signing and more about them saving face and attempting to atone for their misdeeds.
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Quite the story.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Favs agent really kind of sucked... did the opposite of Haywards agent.
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Favors and his agent knew he was prone to injury, IMO. If anything, he really only had the one year where he was criminally underpaid. The last two have shown his pay to be in line with ability to stay on the court. I hope he absolutely tears it up this year and earns a nice contract, but if he has another injury riddled year, the last thing he should be doing is complaining about not getting paid enough.

I actually think he'd more than happy to stay healthy and be a key piece to Utah winning, even if it means not paid as much as he might elsewhere. A healthy Favors could go a long way in making up for what we've lost from last year's team.
 
Catchall said:
That's the thing though. The Jazz are already capped out. One of Exum, Hood or Favors is likely gone due to budgeting. Sure, Favors may not get the max or near-max deal he wants on the open market, but he's still likely to get more than the Jazz are able to pay him, and he could be another team's primary big--especially in the Eastern Conference. All it takes is one team, and there are several, including Phoenix, the Lakers, Milwaukee, etc.

If Favors shows he's healthy and productive, in all likelihood he becomes the Jazz's #1 trade asset. The Jazz have already floated him on the trade market going back to last trade deadline. They may move him for an asset rather than take a 50% chance that he leaves for nothing. Exum and Hood are at least restricted.
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Do you see how money was spent this off-season? There is no certainty to anything.
 
Catchall said:
That's the thing though. The Jazz are already capped out. One of Exum, Hood or Favors is likely gone due to budgeting. Sure, Favors may not get the max or near-max deal he wants on the open market, but he's still likely to get more than the Jazz are able to pay him, and he could be another team's primary big--especially in the Eastern Conference. All it takes is one team, and there are several, including Phoenix, the Lakers, Milwaukee, etc.

If Favors shows he's healthy and productive, in all likelihood he becomes the Jazz's #1 trade asset. The Jazz have already floated him on the trade market going back to last trade deadline. They may move him for an asset rather than take a 50% chance that he leaves for nothing. Exum and Hood are at least restricted.
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Injury prone Favors ain't gettin anywhere close to max. He growin closer to Roy Hubert type money an yeah he should go East an collect a all start appearance lol that Hibbert got two.
 
Health is not the only issue with him. The real problem is with him on the floor Gobert's production drops significantly. A fit Fav may post 16ppg even more with Rubio feeding him. But Gobert was one of the most efficent scorers last year in the league and the Jazz would want to build on that. That's why the Jazz wanted to trade Fav. And now he's disgruntled because he knows the Jazz wanted to deal him.
 
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