First Ebola virus diagnosed in the USA (Dallas, TX)

[One Brow]

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/...us-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html

Another US ebola case.

Technically, transmitted in Africa. Still only two transmitted in the US.

 

[Stoked]

Technically, transmitted in Africa. Still only two transmitted in the US.

The thing that caught my attention was that this dude "...had traveled on the A and L subway lines Wednesday night, visited a bowling alley in Williamsburg, and then took a taxi back to Manhattan."

He reported his fever Thursday morning. Hopefully we just dodged another bullet.

 

[moevillini]

while I understand that a health care worker who has returned from treating Ebola patients would be anxious to resume their lives once they return home, perhaps there should be some sort of automatic quarantine period to see if symptoms show up

I realize the likelihood of transmission is quite rare, but I would hope someone who'd been exposed would be willing to restrict their public activities until the incubation period had passed

In other news, the Dallas nurse has ended her treatment and has just been released

 

[Gameface]

while I understand that a health care worker who has returned from treating Ebola patients would be anxious to resume their lives once they return home, perhaps there should be some sort of automatic quarantine period to see if symptoms show up

I realize the likelihood of transmission is quite rare, but I would hope someone who'd been exposed would be willing to restrict their public activities until the incubation period had passed

In other news, the Dallas nurse has ended her treatment and has just been released

Sounds like those nurses are going to make it. That's really good to hear. Obviously no one deserves to die from a disease, but especially those who put themselves directly in the path of those who are sick for the greater good.

 

[LogGrad98]

US deaths from ebola = 1
Annual US deaths from the flu = >3000, as high as 49,000 over the past 40 years

US ebola infections = 3 (maybe 4, only 2 transmitted in the states)
Annual US flu infections = between 5% and 20% of the population get the flu, approx 200,000 are hospitalized from it annually

% of US populations panicking over ebola = >90%
% of the US population that thinks flu shots are worthless = ?%, but apparently anyone who follows Bill Maher. Link.

% of US population that are morons....well you can do the math.

 

[framer]

US deaths from ebola = 1
Annual US deaths from the flu = >3000, as high as 49,000 over the past 40 years

US ebola infections = 3 (maybe 4, only 2 transmitted in the states)
Annual US flu infections = between 5% and 20% of the population get the flu, approx 200,000 are hospitalized from it annually

% of US populations panicking over ebola = >90%
% of the US population that thinks flu shots are worthless = ?%, but apparently anyone who follows Bill Maher. Link.

% of US population that are morons....well you can do the math.

There isn't widespread panicking about Ebola. That is a load of crap. People are just pissed because it looks like there are things that we could be doing better to prevent ANYONE from getting the disease that aren't being done. Doesn't mean that they can be 100% foolproof, but the New Your Guy mixing with the regular population right off the plane back from TREATING Ebola seems like a pretty unnecessary risk, No? If no one else become infected it will be as a result of luck rather than sound medical practice or policy. If people feel like there isn't enough protection being offered by the people who should protect them, they will prepare on their own, and some of those preparations may seem excessive or irrational. But apparently people value their own lives more than their government betters do, so more power to them. How is this skinning anyone else's nose?

 

[Stoked]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/24/mali-first-ebola-case

Little girl in Mali has been confirmed to have ebola. That is the 6th African country to have at least 1 case.

 

[framer]

They were not covered head-to-toe. They did not use the correct gear, and had exposed skin.

Not trying to discredit you here, but would very much like to see a source on this. The press has seemed to keep this deliberately murky

 

[LogGrad98]

There isn't widespread panicking about Ebola. That is a load of crap. People are just pissed because it looks like there are things that we could be doing better to prevent ANYONE from getting the disease that aren't being done. Doesn't mean that they can be 100% foolproof, but the New Your Guy mixing with the regular population right off the plane back from TREATING Ebola seems like a pretty unnecessary risk, No? If no one else become infected it will be as a result of luck rather than sound medical practice or policy. If people feel like there isn't enough protection being offered by the people who should protect them, they will prepare on their own, and some of those preparations may seem excessive or irrational. But apparently people value their own lives more than their government betters do, so more power to them. How is this skinning anyone else's nose?

https://www.cnn.com/

https://www.foxnews.com/

https://abcnews.go.com/

https://www.nbcnews.com/

https://news.google.com/

https://www.nytimes.com/

https://www.latimes.com/

Okay that's enough. Every one of these have ebola as a major headline. People are definitely blowing this out of proportion. My daughter came home from school and said all the kids there are talking about it, as are the teachers. She asked me if I thought we were going to die from ebola. I have had more than a few employees approach me about what measures our company is taking to prevent ebola from gaining a foothold here. It is just plain stupid. The news outlets like those above and blowing this so out of proportion that it is approaching ridiculous levels. Sure the >90% was hyperbole, but it is becoming pervasive, as it is ubiquitous in the news, but it is just plain stupid that ANYONE in America would actually be worried about it. But the ball has been set rolling, and it will be interesting to see how big it gets.

 

[fishonjazz]

There isn't widespread panicking about Ebola.

I feel like there is alot of panicking about ebola

 

[Stoked]

Yeah I am with Log and Fish on this on. I see posts on FB several times a week with some headline about Ebola. People freaking out and even calling for the ban of travel, quarentines, if they should pull their kids from school, what is their state/city doing to stop this... hell I've even had people tell me that we should even prevent the return of Americans to America if they have ebola. That we should just abandon them and not bring them home for treatment.

 

[YB85]

 

[One Brow]

The thing that caught my attention was that this dude "...had traveled on the A and L subway lines Wednesday night, visited a bowling alley in Williamsburg, and then took a taxi back to Manhattan."

He reported his fever Thursday morning. Hopefully we just dodged another bullet.

He was monitoring his condition, so he probably had not developed the fever the previous night.

 

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Not trying to discredit you here, but would very much like to see a source on this. The press has seemed to keep this deliberately murky

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-dallas-20141014-story.html#page=1

I fully encourage people to treat everything I say with skepticism(as opposed to denial), and ask for verification.

 

[One Brow]

My daughter came home from school and said all the kids there are talking about it, as are the teachers.

A couple of kids were taunting my daughter that she had ebola.

 

[Stoked]

He was monitoring his condition, so he probably had not developed the fever the previous night.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/25/nyregion/new-york-ebola-case-craig-spencer.html

While it does say "...the lower temperature made it highly unlikely that he could have spread the disease before going to the hospital" it goes on to say:

"...On Tuesday — the day Dr. Spencer first began to feel sluggish..."

and

"...the authorities were reaching out to anyone who had contact with Dr. Spencer starting at 7 a.m. on Oct. 21, when he first felt slightly unwell..."

Tuesday was the 21st. So on Tuesday morning, 7 A.M., he had at least some idea that something might be wrong. Thent he still went out on at least two subway lines (A & L), a taxi, a restaurant and a bowling alley the night of the 22nd. He reported his fever the morning of the 23rd.

This is about as close as you can get it. This Dr. acted very foolishly and it might be nothing more than luck if he hasn't spread it to anyone else. He acted very foolishly on the 21st and 2erd imo.

 

[framer]

He was monitoring his condition, so he probably had not developed the fever the previous night.

It appears that he was too damn stupid to be in charge of monitoring his own condition.

 

[LogGrad98]

It appears that he was too damn stupid to be in charge of monitoring his own condition.

Self monitoring will almost always fail because we don't want to believe that it can happen to us.

 

[dodo]

https://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/26/us-health-ebola-usa-idUSKBN0IF03L20141026

Kaci Hickox, being held in isolation at a Newark, New Jersey hospital, planned to contest her quarantine in court, her attorney said, arguing that the order violated of her constitutional rights.

Hickox's confinement raises “serious constitutional and civil liberties issues,” given that she remains asymptomatic and has not tested positive for Ebola, her attorney Norman Siegel, a prominent civil liberties lawyer, said on Sunday.

I dont know how to feel about this.

 

[moevillini]

https://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/26/us-health-ebola-usa-idUSKBN0IF03L20141026


I dont know how to feel about this.

it is a tough situation - - but it seems the conditions of her isolation are pretty grim

On Friday around noon the younger Hickox arrived to Newark Liberty International Airport from Brussels, Belgium expecting to catch a connecting flight to Maine, where she lives, according to her mother.

She told the airport personnel where she had been and what she was doing, her mother said....

...They took her temperature, which came out normal. Airport personnel then transported her to a isolation room in the airport, according to her mother.

Eventually she asked for something to drink and eat, and they gave her water and a granola bar, according to Karen Hickox.

Later on when she was still in the isolation room she called her mom to tell her what was happening.

“She said something like 'it appeared people were unsure of what to do,'” Karen Hickox said.

About four hours after she was first taken to the airport isolation room, they took her temperature again which showed a slight fever.

She was then transported to University Hospital, where medical personnel took her temperature, which came out normal. They also gave her an ebola test and that came out negative...

...According to her mother, she has been moved to a isolation tent, where she has two main doctors. Inside the tent, she doesn’t have a television, shower, or books. There is, however, "a potty that has a bag",” said Karen Hickox.

https://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2014/10/mom_of_nurse_quarantined_for_ebola_she_was_very_frustrated.html