Following potential 2012 draftees
- Thread starter Dr. Jones
- Start date
I think I could get totally on board with Miller. I really like his efficiency (though question a bit whether its partly from being surrounded by good players). Having someone who can efficiently hit shots would be such an improvement over CJ, Howard, and even Carroll. He seems to be a very good complementary player and I agree that's good value at end of first round, especially given what we already have on the Jazz. The gamble is whether he will up his game enough to fit in well at the NBA level. Seems to have the potential.
Don't disagree. Not a work ethic problem .. almost an uber-humility issue.
Back to Miller.
Last year he was needed more than this year. (trust me or look up the rosters, lol)
Last year he averaged more points, rebounds (by a lot), triple the blocked shots. This year he shot the perimeter shots, played perimeter D, and upped his assists. He does what's needed.
Last year he was needed more than this year. (trust me or look up the rosters, lol)
Last year he averaged more points, rebounds (by a lot), triple the blocked shots. This year he shot the perimeter shots, played perimeter D, and upped his assists. He does what's needed.
Look, Just because I don't agree with you, doesn't mean you have to be condescending. You may or may not be right. Time will tell. You can keep your $500, I don't need it. Just a thought- AK can average 16.5 pts. 8.1 rebounds, 3.1 steals, 4.3 assists and 2.8 blocks in a NBA season but you don't think MKG can come close to that impact.
The numbers I threw out their are certainly a possibility but they are dependent upon what his role is and what team drafts him. If he goes to the Bobcats I certainly can see him putting up those type of numbers. If he goes to Washington then he might struggle with getting his shots.
Hantlers
Well-Known Member
I would argue that AK had a more diverse skill set and a better shot than MKG. Sorry if I came off as condescending, I wasn't trying to be. Like you said, time will tell. I could be wrong, but I like to have an opinion and not sent on the fence getting splinters in my bunghole.
*cough*cy*cough*
mellow
Well-Known Member
Reading what PKM said about coach benching him for being passive, then not understanding because he was doing what coach told him to do----it made me wonder does the guy have a low IQ or a low emotional IQ? Or maybe he is just real nice. Not trashing the guy just wondering. If it is low emotional IQ or just passivity there is a small chance he can improve, he may never be Ghengis Khan or Kobe Bryant, but neither of those guys would stay in Utah for long would they?
It's not low BB IQ .. He is always talking about this guy needing more minutes or that guy needing more shots .. it's just kinda weird. He's just too nice, I guess.
Couple thoughts from the D Miller video (and thanks for posting it) and a question for PKM:
1) D Miller sure looks a lot shorter than either A Davis or T Jones. Of course it could be the camera angle, but I thought he was supposed to be within 2-3 inches of these guys. Of course Miller does look about the same height as MKG (who has a very long neck/head).
2) Again hard to tell from a limited video, but to me the athleticism looks similar to CJ Miles (though rather different body types) -- plenty good, but not elite for position/size
3) PKM: Which kind of team do you think Miller can contribute most to -- a team like the Jazz where several of the most talented players seem somewhat deferential in their playing style, or a team like Lakers/Celtics who clearly have alpha males (for lack of a better term) as their most talented players?
1) D Miller sure looks a lot shorter than either A Davis or T Jones. Of course it could be the camera angle, but I thought he was supposed to be within 2-3 inches of these guys. Of course Miller does look about the same height as MKG (who has a very long neck/head).
2) Again hard to tell from a limited video, but to me the athleticism looks similar to CJ Miles (though rather different body types) -- plenty good, but not elite for position/size
3) PKM: Which kind of team do you think Miller can contribute most to -- a team like the Jazz where several of the most talented players seem somewhat deferential in their playing style, or a team like Lakers/Celtics who clearly have alpha males (for lack of a better term) as their most talented players?
1) I've been present when Darius has been measured and he's 6'8.
2) He is a great athlete, well above the average SF.
3) Have no real idea .. don't follow te NBA much. I'm a UK fan, a fan of high character bb players, and the Jazz .. Know tons about bb until the NBA level.
I was a big fan of Miller even though he destroyed my Cyclone's smaller guards. However, with all due respect, I believe there is no way he is 6'8". But he can definitely guard the two and three at the next level and he is a terrific shooter. Probably isn't a very good playmaker, but he at least seems to have a good B-Ball IQ as his weaknesses rarely presented themselves. Then again I only saw him play two games all season...
But if you were present at his measurement then I guess he must be 6'8"
Just curious why you would be present for such a non-spectated event, unless you were the measurer
I guess that makes me a measurer then .. and I'm feeling dirty, at best.
Where you been when all the Royce debates have been going on?
Back about 12 to 370 pages .. or thereabouts.