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Too bad Lillard is sliding up the mocks... My dream was to use Al or Harris as the main piece (with other things included) to get him, which seems more and more unlikely. It would have been awesome to snag him, then have another shot at a top 10 pick next year.

It's all coming down to the free agent haul of '13... KOC better pull of something that summer because the idea of bringing everybody back for another year is making my sphincter pucker.
 
I - like most people at this stage - prefer Lillard to Marshall, but let's not pretend that getting Marshall wouldn't be a very good thing. To jettison Al and get either would be a god damn dream come true.
 
I - like most people at this stage - prefer Lillard to Marshall, but let's not pretend that getting Marshall wouldn't be a very good thing. To jettison Al and get either would be a god damn dream come true.

very true. In fact, at one stage, I wanted Marshall over Lillard.
 
That is my biggest problem in anyone talking about Machado. None of us have seen him play, so I don't think anyone really knows enough to say what he will or won't be.

I only saw the Iona pre-tourney game against BYU, where BYU came back huge in the second half. Scott Machado is really quick and a sharp ball distributor. He looked a bit like a Ty Lawson type, but he doesn't have that level of offense. I think he may be more of a back-up, change-of-pace type.
 
That is my biggest problem in anyone talking about Machado. None of us have seen him play, so I don't think anyone really knows enough to say what he will or won't be.

Only question about him that matters: Can he do a Jr. Jazz camp in Kanab in August?
 
I only saw the Iona pre-tourney game against BYU, where BYU came back huge in the second half. Scott Machado is really quick and a sharp ball distributor. He looked a bit like a Ty Lawson type, but he doesn't have that level of offense. I think he may be more of a back-up, change-of-pace type.

1 game. You can't really judge a player off of 1 game. I think the safe prediction is that his ceiling is back-up PG, but I don't think anyone really has a great idea. Look at how much he improved his junior to senior year, maybe he is capable of getting even better?
 
I only saw the Iona pre-tourney game against BYU, where BYU came back huge in the second half. Scott Machado is really quick and a sharp ball distributor. He looked a bit like a Ty Lawson type, but he doesn't have that level of offense. I think he may be more of a back-up, change-of-pace type.

Getting a full time backup PG at 47 is actually pretty good for the second round. I'd be pretty happy with that.
Here's Scott's combine results:

Hieght w/ shoes: 6' 1.75"
Wieght: 205
Wingspan: 6' 3"
Standing reach: 7' 10"
No step vert: 28.5''
No step vert reach: 10' 2.5"
Bench: 17
Agility: 12
Sprint:3.23


Two things that are pretty good:
His bench is 17. That puts him in the top 15 of the draft class.
Combine that with his sprint: 3.23 and that's very good. So he's strong and fast which is what you want in a PG.
Can't jump very well though and his agility tested kinda poor.
 
Sign Nash to a three year deal at 12, 10, 8, and get Machado in this draft who can be mentored for the next few years and our off-season has been a huge success given the fact that we have no first round picks.
 
IMO Machado is going to be huge bust. I doubt he can guard anyone in the league. I doubt he can get into the paint against anyone in the league. I doubt he will be able to score the ball. So that is basically 3/4 of a point guards responsibility.

For example if BYU can press you for a whole half, you are not an NBA level PG. (And I am BYU fan.)

How can some one be a bust that is drafted in the second round?
 
If the Jazz decide the price is too high to get into the first round and only take a second rounder, I hope they at least trade up in the 2nd Round to grab Doron Lamb. I'd actually feel OK about the whole draft with that outcome at least.
 
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