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Following potential 2013 draftees

Here's some stuff on Adetokunbo from @DraftExpress: I still like this guy at #24.
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Taking a short trip to Jesolo with a hoard of NBA scouts (probably around 50), we were able to take in a U20 game between Croatia and Greece featuring highly touted Greek small forward Giannis Adetokunbo, playing in his first ever game outside of Greece after finally obtaining his passport (he in fact now has two after also receiving a Nigerian passport).
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Starting at the power forward spot but regularly bringing the ball up the floor, he turned in a solid, albeit unspectacular performance, finishing with 11 points, 6 rebounds, and 4 assists by our count while putting many of his strengths and weaknesses on display for those in attendance.
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Acting as a facilitator for his team in the half court and making a number of impressive plays in the open floor, Adetokunbo didn't look out of place competing with players one year his senior in most cases, but his lack of experience was evident. He had a number of rebounds ripped away from him, didn't always finish strong around the basket, and left his feet unnecessarily on a few occasions. Directing his teammates as Greece ran its sets, Adetokunbo has a unique feel for the game considering his age and athleticism, and is undoubtedly a special talent, but is definitely still in the early stages of his development.
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All in all Giannis probably didn't impact his draft stock significantly in either direction. People who liked him probably saw what they needed to see, while those that didn't surely weren't swayed by what he showed. A fairly substantial contingent of the 50 or so NBA scouts started to file out with 6-8 minutes left in the fourth quarter, which can't be considered a great sign. The stop and start nature of the game and overall poor officiating surely didn't help matters, but Adetokunbo will need to show more in the next two days if he wants to definitively boost his stock into the top-20.
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Watching Schoeders Jazz video again made me smile. I think he's a good guy.
I love the part where he says most Americans can't pronounce his name.

The umlaut is so hard. You have to slur your mouth together to make that sound.
I still haven't perfected it at all. I can pronounce it better than most of you guys,
but still not many Jazzfanz could say it 100% correct.

It's more like Shhh -ewwww -dair

not sch-oder
 
This guy Kevin Pelton at ESPN sure doesn't seem too high on Shabazz. He seems to diss him a few times in his chat. He also doesn't seem to think that McCollum is a point guard.
 
Catchall said:
This guy Kevin Pelton at ESPN sure doesn't seem too high on Shabazz. He seems to diss him a few times in his chat. He also doesn't seem to think that McCollum is a point guard.
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Kevin Pelton is a stats guy and he thinks Bazz is overrated based on his analysis. Here's a part of his analysis as it pertains to Bazz:

That's bad news for Muhammad. First off, his NBA translation is poor, pegging him for a .313 winning percentage -- far worse than replacement level (.410) -- due to his low numbers in assists, steals and blocks. Because players develop so quickly in their teens and early 20s, such a projection isn't a death knell for a freshman. Eric Bledsoe, for example, rated similarly playing out of position at Kentucky.

That's where Muhammad's age is problematic. Because age, not class, predicts future development, we're now effectively comparing Muhammad to more polished sophomores. The extra year takes a significant chunk out of his WARP projection, dropping it from 1.0 WARP per season to 0.4 -- a figure that usually lands a prospect in the second round. My database, which includes all college rookies since 2005 and selects ones dating to 2000 (based on the availability of team stats), has just a handful of lottery picks with a WARP projection of 0.5 or lower.
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His theory on NBA translations can be found here:

https://basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=376
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Interesting workout today with the Suns. Some interesting players there... I think there's a good chance we go with either Wolters or Green with our 2nd rounder. They are perfect fit for us if we want to go down the PnR heavy offense route.
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Neither will be available.
 
Hey NBN - is this you bro?? You're probably the biggest supporter of Larkin on JazzFanz right?

Jay (Utah)

It seems as if Larkin really impressed the Jazz during his workouts. Do you think he would be a good fit with the "core 4" (Favors, Kanter, Hayward, Burks) or do you think he is destined to be a good bench player, nothing more?

Kevin Pelton (2:29 PM)

I like him in Utah because of his shooting ability. That's an especially important factor if the Jazz view Burks as their 2-guard of the future.
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And.. another question here (really pushing Kevin to say that the lack of size of Larkin doesn't matter):

Jay (Utah)

So do you think that if you have good defensive big-men to protect the paint that the size of your point guard is much less important than their ability to get the offense running as long as they have the speed to not get beat every time?

Kevin Pelton (2:50 PM)

Yes. The size of your point guard is a much smaller defensive factor than the quality of your big men. Does make it more difficult to crossmatch, etc.
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