What's new
By:

Following Potential 2026 Draftees

KqWIN said:
I haven't done the research myself, but I don't really see a reason to believe why we can suddenly develop shooting better (at the NBA level) than before. I think it's much more likely the case that the guys who can shoot get to play more and also that prospects coming in are better at shooting.

Either way, good shooting is still a much better sign than bad shooting. I don't think Wilson's shooting is bad, but it is still a fair question mark. I'd say that shooting is still a question mark for he and AJ until they show improvement. He's looking like an A+ prospect outside of shooting so far though. Looks like a smaller, but more athletic Evan Mobley.
Click to expand...

I don't know. I think that shooting is so important that guys who would have never tried to develop a shot are doing so now. I can also imagine that there are better methods for teaching players shooting that have improved over the years.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I don't know. I think that shooting is so important that guys who would have never tried to develop a shot are doing so now. I can also imagine that there are better methods for teaching players shooting that have improved over the years.
Click to expand...

You could honestly take this the other way and say that because the incoming players have all been taught/encouraged to shoot, it is way less likely that they can't shoot because they haven't had good training. For example, a guy like Brook Lopez likely could have always been able to shoot....but he was only encouraged to do so later his career. But if he was born 15 years later he would have been shooting 3's his whole life. So there may have been an initial bump in guys who just started trying it out once they were in the league like Brook, but I don't know if that's relevant to current prospect who are much more likely to have already tried to shoot 3's. There are still some cases of guys who weren't told/taught to shoot, but that number has to be lower than it was before.

It's all relative as well. The shooting standard keeps getting higher and higher and I think most would also say that the importance of shooting is greater. All of this is just to say, I don't see a reason to feel more optimistic about bad shooters. I don't want this to come off as me saying we shouldn't draft bad shooters or that they can't improve. I just don't see the evidence or rationale to see why they can/are improving more now.
 
Last edited:
KqWIN said:
You could honestly take this the other way and say that because the incoming players have all been taught/encouraged to shoot, it is way less likely that they can't shoot because they haven't had good training. For example, a guy like Brook Lopez likely could have always been able to shoot....but he was only encouraged to do so later his career. But if he was born 15 years later he would have been shooting 3's his whole life. So there may have been an initial bump in guys who just started trying it out once they were in the league like Brook, but I don't know if that's relevant to current prospect who are much more likely to have already tried to shoot 3's. There are still some cases of guys who weren't told/taught to shoot, but that number has to be lower than it was before.

It's all relative as well. The shooting standard keeps getting higher and higher and I think most would also say that the importance of shooting is greater. All of this is just to say, I don't see a reason to feel more optimistic about bad shooters. I don't want this to come off as me saying we shouldn't draft bad shooters or that they can't improve. I just don't see the evidence or rationale to see why they can/are improving now.
Click to expand...
Good points. My evidence at this point is all anecdotal. It feels like there are a bunch of guys who improve their shooting in the NBA, but i get that isn't very convincing.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Yeah, I would have to be sure Brown is better than Keyonte, and I'm not there yet whereas Wilson looks like the missing piece.
Click to expand...

Key is making a big case for himself as someone to build with, but I’d also say that at my biggest concern going forward is overall defense. I trust Hardy to be able to scheme his way into an elite offense even without elite talent. We were pretty great even when we Conley, Beasley, KO etc.

I think we’ll rely more heavily on talent than coaching wizardry on the defensive end. We’ll need at least two all defense type guys to be a good defensive team.
 
Brown looks really good to me. Like really good. I like that he plays below the rim despite having a 40” vertical leap. Hes very crafty, can score at all 3 levels, and he’s lights out.
 
Jazz are kind of stuck in a catch 22. Would you rather trade Lauri and give yourself a chance at a generational guy, or keep Lauri and draft someone in the second tier which is like drafting someone from the first tier in most drafts?
 
rippimpc said:
Jazz are kind of stuck in a catch 22. Would you rather trade Lauri and give yourself a chance at a generational guy, or keep Lauri and draft someone in the second tier which is like drafting someone from the first tier in most drafts?
Click to expand...

That's not how I would phrase it, at all. In any scenario our most likely draft positioning will be 5+. Trading Lauri increases our odds at a top 3 pick, but far from guarantees it. Trading Lauri should certainly guarantee we get a pick in the 5-8 range though, whereas if we keep Lauri and continue to play it straight there is a real chance we lose the pick altogether.

I also wouldn't consider anyone in this draft generational, at least not yet. I also think it's too early to really say what the next tier is like. It looks very good, but I don't think it's first tier in a normal draft good.
 
Keep Lauri, keep Kessler
Try to keep the top 8 pick
Even 6,7,8 pick may turn out to be a great player
Then go for playoffs next year
 
Say we keep Lauri and decide to run it with baby Ace, Bambi Brown, cool hand keynote, and the rest of the band of merry men… our window is 31 - 34 year old Lauri as the youngsters figure it out? Is Lauri good enough to take us to the promised land? I guess it gives us a shot before ace and the 5 - 8 pick decide to leave for the big city lights in 6 years.
 
If we trade Lauri now I think we could definitely have a bottom 3 record meaning we would have a 40.1% chance at a top 3 pick and a 100% chance at keeping our pick.

If we don't trade Lauri it's more difficult to predict, but for now I'm going to say we end up with the 7th worst record. That would mean we would have a 23.4% chance at a top 3 pick and an 85.8% chance at keeping our pick.

So by Trading Lauri we can increase our chance at a potentially franchise changing player by 16.7% and increase our chance at a very good player by 14.2%.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top