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Frank's Thoughts on Scott

gomretat

gomretat

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I admit I have always been a huge fan of Frank Layden and any fan of the Utah Jazz who knows the history of this franchise can't help but admire what he did in the early years. He is not happy about the way his son was dealt with in the hiring KOC's replacement. See the link below. I am not sure Scott was the guy but if Frank is correct this was handled very poorly. I think Scott was a real contributor to the Jazz and the fact the Spurs hired him simply reinforces that for me. Happy to have Lindsey in the fold but think we should have managed the situation with Scott differently.

https://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/54853507-77/layden-scott-jazz-job.html.csp
 
I'm sure the front office knew exactly who the candidates were and who was most qualified for the job. A son doesn't earn time-served by a father.. and though Scott may very well have deserved the respect of a conversation, this is real business, real profits/losses, and we should respect the conversations that go on behind closed doors and lead to these decisions.
 
Of course Frank would say that - he's his dad. What else could he have said?

I just don't see Scott showing the kind of leadership skill, initiative or creativity to fulfill the GM role that KOC was after. Scott looks to me to be too much of a 'yes man' kinda guy.

And I don't think KOC was looking for that. KOC said it himself in hiring Lindsey "I got a new playmate". I just don't see Scott to be the kind of guy who would bring new ideas, outside the box thinking, to the table - which is something I'm sure KOC was looking for.
 
PKM said:
I'm sure the front office knew exactly who the candidates were and who was most qualified for the job. A son doesn't earn time-served by a father.. and though Scott may very well have deserved the respect of a conversation, this is real business, real profits/losses, and we should respect the conversations that go on behind closed doors and lead to these decisions.
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Spoken like a true businessman.
 
PKM said:
I'm sure the front office knew exactly who the candidates were and who was most qualified for the job. A son doesn't earn time-served by a father.. and though Scott may very well have deserved the respect of a conversation, this is real business, real profits/losses, and we should respect the conversations that go on behind closed doors and lead to these decisions.
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And I totally agree with that thought process.
 
frank thinks his son should have gotten the job, eh? interesting.

in unrelated news, i just saw this headline: "newborn baby is gorgeous, says mother."
 
PKM said:
I take it you're not a huge Scott fan.. (no judging).
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nothing against scott whatsoever. in fact, in another thread i was the guy defending him against people who think he is going to be downfall of our franchise if he allowed to be 2nd assistant for a single other day. i think scott is hard-working, always prepared, and is extremely personable with everybody - players, media, etc.

i just don't think it's exactly news when a guy's dad comes out and publicly says he's the bee's knees. of course frank thinks scott is a super judge of talent. but, as others have pointed out here, we can't make decisions based on the biased opinion of an 80-year-old dude, regardless of how much said dude has done for the franchise.

love frank, and really like scott... but this article is just not newsworthy in the least.
 
Scott left us first before someone decided to have him come back for round 2. In any case, would anyone like to remind Frank how that one turned out?
 
To be clear - I think they hired the right guy. But if Frank is accurate in what he is saying, this is the way to manage the process. Call me old fashioned but I think making an attempt to keep my coaches in the loop is a better process. And I think we owe a lot to the Laydens as a whole. Frank had a huge impact on keeping the Jazz in SLC. Not surprising he would feel slighted by how things went down. Comparing this with a mother thinking her baby is cute is a gross over simplification. I doubt this process takes the same path if LHM is still with us - even if the outcome would have been the same.
 
The Jazz don't owe the Laydens a thing. They were paid for their time here and this process was handled properly. I love that this franchise is finally being bold and the good ole boy routine no longer exists. RIP LHM, long live Greggy and Gail.
 
Vermin said:
I love that this franchise is finally being bold and the good ole boy routine no longer exists.
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I would say that it is dying. I agree with everything else you said. Laden was paid and he is still making money off of his relationship with the Jazz.
 
i think what we are seeing is the difference betwen the LHM regime and the new greg "let the basketball people run the basketball team" regime. now don't get me wrong: i loved larry's passion and think greg is kind of a tool... but the fact that KOC now feels empowered to go after the right guys (and not just the "next in line" guys) is a signal that something has shifted in the last couple of years.

not that i think the jazz made the WRONG hiring decisions under larry... i don't just think it was a 100% meritocracy, either. the "our guys" concept was at times obvious with decisions made with regards to the coaching staff, the front office, and even the players (bringing players back for a second stint, staying married to guys who hadn't lived up to their promise).
 
Scott was vice president of basketball operations before he left us to become the GM for New York. But under Scott's leadership, the Jazz lost Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley to free agency and we got nothing in return because the Jazz "wouldn't be blackmailed" into a sign-and-trade. I thought Larry was being very magnanimous to bring Scott back after the Knicks fired him. Personally, I am very glad he didn't get his old spot back.
 
I like how people here talk about like they actually know assistant coaches ability level.
 
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