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nightmare3983 said:
I don't get why they don't include any exceptions. I'm a pro-lifer, but I still think there are instances where it's ok to get an abortion. Rape as you mentioned, and also incest and if the pregnant woman's health is endangered by the pregnancy come to mind. I just don't see the point in getting super hardcore on the matter.
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I'm in the same boat. I don't understand the logic of adopting such an unpopular view just to appeal to the far right.
 
nightmare3983 said:
I don't get why they don't include any exceptions. I'm a pro-lifer, but I still think there are instances where it's ok to get an abortion. Rape as you mentioned, and also incest and if the pregnant woman's health is endangered by the pregnancy come to mind. I just don't see the point in getting super hardcore on the matter.
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Cause if you don't get hardcore then you are going to hell. See why it's a big deal now? Hell is serious business.
 
I'm not sure that the official party platform matters much if it isn't the candidate's platform.

From the same article:

Romney and his running mate Paul Ryan... pledged that under a Romney administration, abortion would be allowed in the case of rape... Ryan, his vice presidential pick, has opposed exceptions for rape [but] now says he defers to Romney's position on the matter.
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colton said:
I'm not sure that the official party platform matters much if it isn't the candidate's platform.

From the same article:
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You're right in that once elected, a president (or anybody in any office) isn't obligated to follow the party's platform to any extent. But, during the election, it is very easy for the Democrats to point to the Republican Party's platform and associate with the Republican ticket.

EDIT: They're already doing it. THe DNC chairwoman said this in an email: "Now, Akin's choice of words isn't the real issue here. The real issue is a Republican party — led by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan — whose policies on women and their health are dangerously wrong."
 
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nightmare3983 said:
You're right in that once elected, a president (or anybody in any office) isn't obligated to follow the party's platform to any extent. But, during the election, it is very easy for the Democrats to point to the Republican Party's platform and associate with the Republican ticket.

EDIT: They're already doing it. THe DNC chairwoman said this in an email: "Now, Akin's choice of words isn't the real issue here. The real issue is a Republican party — led by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan — whose policies on women and their health are dangerously wrong."
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Closely related article:
https://news.yahoo.com/jumping-ship--the-platforms-no-one-stands-on-anymore.html

So why has this decades-long position triggered comparatively little political furor?

It’s simple: Nobody takes the platform of a political party seriously any longer...

For most of our history, conventions were held not only to nominate candidates, but also to debate and define what the parties stood for. The platform was a serious declaration of purpose, and the fights were hugely consequential. Candidates accepted not only their party’s nomination, but the platform as well.

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And today? The platform is largely regarded as a way to placate the more ideologically-fervent constituencies, without really binding the nominees to much of anything.
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colton said:
Closely related article:
https://news.yahoo.com/jumping-ship--the-platforms-no-one-stands-on-anymore.html
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Thanks for the good link. I need to spread my rep around more before I can rep you again. I think that's a fair point that people in general don't take a platform very seriously, but it still doesn't stop the Democrats from trying to use the Republican platform against Romney. Or vice versa I suppose, although with an incumbent you mainly focus on their track record in office.
 
nightmare3983 said:
Thanks for the good link. I need to spread my rep around more before I can rep you again. I think that's a fair point that people in general don't take a platform very seriously, but it still doesn't stop the Democrats from trying to use the Republican platform against Romney. Or vice versa I suppose, although with an incumbent you mainly focus on their track record in office.
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Republicans (or at least the buzzword talking political scream poster Republicans) are using "Obama is taking your guns away" cry. So it's certainly going both ways, even with the incumbent.

And candidates taking stances that DON'T match the party platform? Isn't that a good thing?
 
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