Harpring needs to be fired
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trigg3r
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You need to stop whining.
Matt loves to talk and he does say some dumb things now and then but he does an ok job. I think what he said was dumb not worth getting fired. THe most annoying thing he said was the reason why Burks isn't ready is because he missed a defensive assignment. If that were the case then the whole roster would be sitting on the bench.
Bull crap. He was spot on. He was not calling for them to hurt anyone but when they continually drive in for dunks and layups you have to give a hard, dirty foul. Knock a guy on his butt and send a message. Right on Harpring!
Gyp Rosetti
Banned
How will he destroy the team's chances, dude?
trigg3r
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Harpring was saying what any logical Jazz fan was thinking. Foul them hard when they are going in for a layup or a possible dunk. He wasn't saying hurt them. Just let them know that you are there. We haven't done that in either game so far and you can just see the dunk party going on during both games. We need to have some kind of toughness or for that matter pride that we aren't going to let Nene dunk on us 5 times or more in a single night. Or for that matter having to hear the TNT announcer ****** as that clown Ron Artest AKA Metta World Peace dusts one of our defenders and dunks on us. It's silly not to want this team to be tougher.
Sends the wrong message to the players, the refs, the fans, and the media.
Players need to learn and get in the habit of playing defense, not fouling intentionally.
If the teams has a rep as a dirty team that likes to defend by fouling, the media will will want the team to lose, and the refs will give more calls favoring the other teams.
Players need to learn and get in the habit of playing defense, not fouling intentionally.
If the teams has a rep as a dirty team that likes to defend by fouling, the media will will want the team to lose, and the refs will give more calls favoring the other teams.
They need to hire Stockton and Malone (or any other physical, borderline dirty player) for the season to come in and teach the team about nasty, physical play. Not be regular coaches but show them how to make their presence known so crap like the Denver game doesn't happen.
Personally I don't give a hoot about the media. The Jazz get no love anyways. Also we are not talking about regular D and neither was Harpring. But sometimes you have to make a statement.
Joe Bagadonuts
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So you're thinking that if the refs listen to the Jazz broadcast and hear Harp complain that the Jazz aren't playing physical then they'll become biased against the Jazz and start calling fouls for being physical? That's what's going to destroy our chances for 20 years? Wow.
Fishsticks
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This thread is the winnerzzzzzzz
Sweet! Way to completely misunderstand what was said. Well done.
Joe B, you make a decent point, but the danger is that the team starts doing what Harpring wants them to do, or that Harpring starts praising players when they do make a hard foul.
They just would be much better off developing a culture of being a team that plays good defense, NOT a team that thinks good defense means fouling a lot and playing a little dirty.
They just would be much better off developing a culture of being a team that plays good defense, NOT a team that thinks good defense means fouling a lot and playing a little dirty.
Double Negative
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Dude, pick a bigger battle.
I really think this thread is arguing two different things. Clearly you are right in the Jazz need to set a precedent and culture of good D. Help D, rotations, moving your feet...yes all of it.
What we are saying and i think Harpring as well was that in a situation like the game against Denver you to make a statement. Not the whole game and not multiple games. But a couple plays where the other team gets the point that driving in is a bad idea (in a situation last night).
Joe Bagadonuts
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We need to play solid defense and that includes the occasional hard foul to make opponents think twice about running down the middle of the lane. It doesn't make one iota of difference what Harpring has to say about it.
Blame Boone