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Hayward - after 2 more seasons can opt out - due to DL gambling and losing....

ijazz

ijazz

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Real curious what GH does.

For arguments sake, let us say Hayward has peaked. (20/5/4) type player which is fringe all-star.

Jazz are just clicking, I expect to make the playoffs next year (maybe 7 or 8 seed)

The following year, maybe a 5/6 seed.


Now, Gtime can opt out.

Wonder if he will but remain with the Jazz. Be real curious. The obvious reason for the opt out is if he keeps his numbers, he can get paid even more.

1st world problems....It's good to be G.


As a side note, this summer will be real interesting. I am a HUGE chemistry guy. From Owner--> GM--> Coach--> Players, wins championships. Seems like we have finally laid down a foundation.

My litmus test on anyone we get is to not screw up our chemistry. This is Haywards & Goberts team IMO. (Favors a tier 2 player).

EVERYBODY else is expendable/trade-able to make this happen
 
DL didn't gamble and lose. At the beginning of free agency, he made it clear that he was going to resign Hayward. That max contract that he signed was designed by Charlotte not Utah. Also, yes he can opt out which he will because that is when the new cap will hit and he can get much more money. The good news is the cap goes up for everyone, so the Jazz can resign him if he is in fact still in his prime. If Hayward is still balling in 4 years, i'm not worried at all about keeping him.
 
I'm not the biggest fan of always letting players go get offers then just matching. The other teams always put in unfavorable terms to try and get the player away. Millsap's structuring by Portland sucked, obviously Matthews' didn't turn out too well, Gordon got a shorter deal than he may have signed otherwise, etc.
 
My point was rumor was Hayward wanted 4/50.

We also could have went 5/65.

I'm just saying his gamble did not pay off.

I would also think Haywards decision will be based on if we are winning. Once you have that much money, I would think you would want to win.

If I were him, that would be the only reason to leave, to get to a contender. (Hopefully we are there by then and makes it a no brainer)
 
I'm happy Indiana already has Paul George. Little worried that he might go rejoin Brad Stevens in Boston, but if the Jazz are winning I don't think he'll leave.
 
I'm happy Mr McGibblets posted
 
There are a lot more things to worry about then this. Hayward just signed his contract and people are already worrying about whether he will opt out. Geez!!!!
 
Carbon13 said:
Lol, "dont sign Hayward, its too much!!". *6 months later* "DL blew it when he didn't sign Hayward for longer!"
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What was wierd is many of the Hayward max dissenters were also arguing he would just opt out and make a ton more money... It was puzzling because if he didn't live up to the deal why would he opt out and get a ton more.

I think we will keep him he seems happy. Where is his wife from?
 
I think it was good that DL let him play the market instead of giving him what he originally wanted. Teams courting him and throwing max offers had to have done wonders for his confidence. Especially after getting cut from team USA. If he signed that 4 year 50 million deal or whatever that he wanted, he could have only performed to that. Give him confidence and a chip on his shoulder, and the max he signed isn't enough!
 
Don't forget Hayward would be opting out under a new CBA. We don't know what revisions to max player contracts and bird rights will be made, which will have a huge bearing on his decision.
All we can do is keep improving and quietly develop Rodney in case of the worst.
 
Jazz4ever said:
Don't forget Hayward would be opting out under a new CBA. We don't know what revisions to max player contracts and bird rights will be made, which will have a huge bearing on his decision.
All we can do is keep improving and quietly develop Rodney in case of the worst.
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I don't think Rudy's development has been quiet. That's just not happening.
 
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