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Nate505 said:
Ok, so it it's a standard "being the same" issue I wonder why Korver was allowed to wear the really high socks...they were certainly not "one form" compared to the others on the team, and they were definitely conspicuous.
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*shrug* Maybe he didn't think it breaking the uniform code.
 
John Stockton Shorts aren't called John Stockton Shorts because everyone was wearing them.

Just like in the Navy, uniform means wear what I tell you to wear, and do it now.
 
Nate505 said:
Ok, so it it's a standard "being the same" issue I wonder why Korver was allowed to wear the really high socks...they were certainly not "one form" compared to the others on the team, and they were definitely conspicuous.
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Exactly. This never added up. A rule is fine if it makes any sense. Not allowing players to wear headbands is pointless. So is making beer 3.2 but I digress....
 
Nate505 said:
Ok, so it it's a standard "being the same" issue I wonder why Korver was allowed to wear the really high socks...they were certainly not "one form" compared to the others on the team, and they were definitely conspicuous.
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you just dont get it do you.
he was allowed to wear socks because everyone was wearing socks.
 
With Jerry, it was all about TEAM. Lombardi was the same with the Packers. Do everything as a TEAM, which includes attire, which includes headbands. I've heard Jerry Jerry explain he was NOT personally opposed to headbands but someone on the team didn't want to, so he disallowed it. Didn't know 'bout the dark shoes thing; kinda shows Jerry was true to his word.
Back when New Orleans got an NFL team, the Packers went there to play a game, only to find some hotels would not serve blacks. Lombardi said fine, the TEAM would find another hotel. Perfect answer, IMO. Showed all the players he took TEAM unity seriously and demonstrated it!
 
The headband rule is RIDICULOUS, period. I used to run in road races and wore a headband out of necessity because my forehead used to sweat so much and it got in my eyes. I expect there are athletes out there who have the same problem. So, headbands are not necessarily a fashion statement, but something functional. In any case, how does it interfere with a guy's play on the court. At the same time, Jerry allowed tattoos. To my way of thinking, they are more egregrious to that mentality and are totally a fashion statement and have no functional purpose whatsoever.
 
billyshelby said:
First of all, "He used to wear a headband" is funny.

Second of all, I think Ty knows the importance of not trampling over Jerry's legacy. Change the offensive and defensive schemes, of course. But there is no need to change the culture right away (if at all). He can decide to loosen that one at a later time, but for now the 'no headband' rule is actually a good thing. It says, "We're still the Jazz, and you're with us or you're gone." It's kinda stupid, really, but a good thing under the current situation.
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Good take. I think banning headbands is dumb, but you at least temporarily changed my mind.
 
NotDeadYet said:
With Jerry, it was all about TEAM. Lombardi was the same with the Packers. Do everything as a TEAM, which includes attire, which includes headbands. I've heard Jerry Jerry explain he was NOT personally opposed to headbands but someone on the team didn't want to, so he disallowed it. Didn't know 'bout the dark shoes thing; kinda shows Jerry was true to his word.
Back when New Orleans got an NFL team, the Packers went there to play a game, only to find some hotels would not serve blacks. Lombardi said fine, the TEAM would find another hotel. Perfect answer, IMO. Showed all the players he took TEAM unity seriously and demonstrated it!
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I get your point, but wow is that different from the headband issue.
 
Wonder what would happen if I guy shaved or dyed his hair to make it look like a headband, or maybe got a headband tattoo?
 
each employer can have different uniform rules. some teams allow them, others do not. if you are employed by someone you adhere to their dress code policies. Josh Howard understands this.
 
billyshelby said:
First of all, "He used to wear a headband" is funny.

Second of all, I think Ty knows the importance of not trampling over Jerry's legacy. Change the offensive and defensive schemes, of course. But there is no need to change the culture right away (if at all). He can decide to loosen that one at a later time, but for now the 'no headband' rule is actually a good thing. It says, "We're still the Jazz, and you're with us or you're gone." It's kinda stupid, really, but a good thing under the current situation.
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I don't think Sloan's legacy has anything to do with it. Corbin is not waking up and saying what would Jerry do. I just think the Jazz as an organizaition are trying to cultivate an image of team play so having individual fashion statements takes away from this goal. Personally, I think headbands look stupid.
 
Urzajazz said:
each employer can have different uniform rules. some teams allow them, others do not. if you are employed by someone you adhere to their dress code policies. Josh Howard understands this.
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I don't think anyone is disputing that they can't have a dress code policy or they can't ban headbands. I just want to know the rationale behind it. I've heard all the theories, but most of them don't hold up to me since there seem to be inconsistencies with them.
 
cowhide said:
I don't think Sloan's legacy has anything to do with it. Corbin is not waking up and saying what would Jerry do. I just think the Jazz as an organizaition are trying to cultivate an image of team play so having individual fashion statements takes away from this goal. Personally, I think headbands look stupid.
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Unfortunately for your argument, headbands have a very practical function or the league wouldn't allow them.
 
I guess unity is the purpose, I still don't get it. I think if you let a player have those unique things about them it makes them more comfortable and confident on the court and thereby improves their play. Look what increased confidence did for Hayward at the end of last season. I guess you could argue that the other way around (look what increased comfort and confidence has done for CJ *shudder*), but I think, and always have thought, that is a stupid rule.
 
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