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Hill and Hayward: The Package Deal

SCS said:
Even when healthy he's not an all star level player. 16.9 and 4 is all star? And he hasn't been healthy for 3 seasons, why would he be next year? He's only going to regress. He's 31...
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Unless the Jazz hire the entire Suns training staff that got Steve Nash and Grant Hill to play 10 years younger than their bodies.
 
DownUnder said:
so what kind of 3rd star do you think we're going to get without trading one of ours ? Or if you happen to luck onto one in the draft, at best it'll still take 3-4 years to get that player to star level. Free agency .. highly unlikely a true star level player at that standard is signing to the Jazz
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The Pistons picked up Rasheed Wallace with patience when the opportunity presented itself. They didn't give up their stars. Lakers picked up Pau without giving up stars. You wait for an oppurtunity and cash in young assets and picks. PG-13, Butler, Brook Lopez all possibilities this summer in trade. And that's just a few right now. We got to be patient. We can't just say "oh this is what we have and it's what we're stuck with because nobody wants to come to Utah" or "the Jazz have never done a trade like that before so they never will".
 
SCS said:
Even when healthy he's not an all star level player. 16.9 and 4 is all star? And he hasn't been healthy for 3 seasons, why would he be next year? He's only going to regress. He's 31...
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I have yet to hear your plan and the players you would get.
 
We can't let an asset like Hill go especially when we don't have any cap space. We also have some players who are going to get extensions coming up.


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fishonjazz said:
Plus the warriors got lucky to sign curry for so cheap. And got lucky draymond turned out so good. (iirc he was a late late pick)
And fortunate that klay ended up so good.

If people are only satisfied with championships then it's unlikely that they will ever be satisfied.

Sounds like there are quite a few people who think that if you are winning over 50 games and getting homecourt in the playoffs and advancing but not winning championships then we should trade everyone for draft picks and start over.

No thanks
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I think our team could jump to 60 wins if we kept it together. I think we could push GS next year if we actually have a healthy roster and our young players keep developing.

We still have not seen a healthy Gobert in the playoffs our best player. He is going to be a beast next year in the playoffs when healthy.

At that point we might not win it all but we are at least in the conversation and have a chance if things go our way. Durant has had plenty of injuries and could miss playoffs. Curry has a slew of injury concerns as well. Durant also might leave after this season as a FA as well. We could compete with a GS without Durant next season.
 
fishonjazz said:
I have yet to hear your plan and the players you would get.
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That's because there isn't a plan realistic enough to strongly posit.

Sorry, everyone, the Jazz don't magically get better by letting go of one of their best players while being well above the cap. That is simply losing an asset. As in... LOSING an asset.
 
SCS said:
The post right before you posted this I mentioned names.
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A. Those situations aren't our situation. They also aren't current.
B. How are any of those situations analogous to letting Hill (one of a team's best players) walk for NOTHING?
 
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