What Google translate came when I entered your post and told it to convert from "Bitchenese" to English.
I'm calling for a large order of crow for jazzfanz
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What Google translate came when I entered your post and told it to convert from "Bitchenese" to English.
NAOS
Well-Known Member
snizzzzap, ya'll
It's y'all. Learn to speak American.
Stifle Tower
Punch Bowl Re-Filler
Well, I never did, but crow tastes best covered in fry sauce from what I hear.
BluesRocker
Banned
Ever notice how Thee think it's all about him. Nobody loves Hayward more than Thee. Nobody loves the Jazz more than Thee. Nobody! Hell it's right in his name "Thee Jazz Fan"
You need to learn how to share
Jk Thee
Almost nobody seen the Hayward thing coming and how good he has been. And that's because we are all racists against white people and we are all white people here(well mostly). Somehow we have gotten so down on the white man's chances of playing in the NBA that we can't even judge a white guy fairly. The evidence was all there. He has good size and length. And he demonstrated his basketball ability right in front of our eyes when he took Butler to the championship. We should have been higher on him than most of us were. There really was a small number of Jazz fans that liked that pick at first, and a large portion that didn't, and it was all because he is white.
You need to learn how to share
Jk Thee
Almost nobody seen the Hayward thing coming and how good he has been. And that's because we are all racists against white people and we are all white people here(well mostly). Somehow we have gotten so down on the white man's chances of playing in the NBA that we can't even judge a white guy fairly. The evidence was all there. He has good size and length. And he demonstrated his basketball ability right in front of our eyes when he took Butler to the championship. We should have been higher on him than most of us were. There really was a small number of Jazz fans that liked that pick at first, and a large portion that didn't, and it was all because he is white.
BluesRocker
Banned
You are not a poet and I know it.
I'm not sure if you're parodying Thee in your sentiments here, but I'll respond to this take anyway:
His being a white American players had to be taken into consideration. At the point that the Jazz drafted him, David Lee had just made an all-star game, and was something like the first American white player to be named an all-star in something like a decade (I couldn't quickly find a source, and I don't really feel like digging through stuff right now). If you believe history tells a story but also predicts the future and/or something that's trending, the little fact that American white players had been largely irrelevant in the modern NBA doesn't bode well for those of that demographic.
But that's not the end-all. For me, the fact that he was and is a pedestrian physical specimen (his wingspan to height ratio is average for a non-pro athlete [1:1] and the worst ratio for wings in the draft class, he had the second shortest standing reach of drafted wings, dead-last in max vert reach, and second-to-last lane agility time). If you add in measurement rankings to that mentionable recent history of white American athletes, and the fact that despite a great run in the tournament, he simply hadn't played anybody and ended up shooting 29% and that was supposed to be his greatest strength, you're not going to be a believer. I certainly wasn't.
What I hadn't taken into serious consideration is that in those measurements rankings, the degree of difference isn't great between most prospects, and they don't measure intellect, fundamentals, or heart (but I can only go off of real data at the same time). I could've been horny that he took a no-name school to the last shot of the National Championship Game, but college basketball is filled with heroes that don't do anything in the NBA largely because of their physical shortcomings. Hayward looked to fit that bill to me.
I've definitely been more wrong than right in regards to projecting Hayward as a player, but let's keep our feet on the ground. I'm obviously hoping that Hayward continues to play like this, but outside of about four months of play spread out over his first two seasons, Hayward has contributed/produced like a player that doesn't get a second contract. I'm a believer, but the guy really struggled to adjust to the level of competition, and then struggled to find his role this year. I consider him untradeable and have since last year, but let's be real.
NAOS
Well-Known Member
I appreciate your call to be reasonable; I like a lot of what you say here.
That said, I'm choosing to read this post as, primarily, a condemnation of statistics. You see, I already condemn them more than most schooled people, so I'm already well on the way of feeling comfortable with my visions of Hayward's development. I'm not blushing when I say he'll average 16/5/5 on 45%/38%/85%.
BluesRocker
Banned
That was kind of hard to understand just how high you are on him.
But I got most of it.
I shizzed myself when they picked him. But I am really high on him now. I really think that he has some pretty high potential. I think every once in a while a white player comes along and is just real good. And the team who is notorious for drafting white people(whether that's true or not) ends up getting the next great white dude to come out in a long time, because they had the guts to pick him. And with a little luck and patience they get their guy.Im really high on him. I think he has HOF potential. He doesn't have any weaknesses really except consistant shooting. Which we all expect to get better. Gordon Hayward is running around the court making plays that longer and more athletic players aren't making in his second year. Seriously! Think of how many things he does well at this early point in his career. He is running up and down the court blocking shots and dunking or assisting in the same play. It's like he's a smarter AK reincarnated with better side to side agility guarding people, and a better shot. And doing it with less tools in his bag. Credit to Jazz Brass in seeing his potential when they watched him play. I believe in this kid. He is practiacally Lebron Lite
Hayward is easily going to be demanding over 12 million a year by the time his rookie contract is up, if not a max guy.