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Impact of Market Underestimation of Future Salary Cap

checkbookdoc

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Hey everyone, this is a long post so here is a quick summary: In this post I contend that the NBA market is significantly underestimating the salary cap number which should be used in decision making, I discuss what I believe the consequences of this will be, and then I discuss general actions that the front office should take in response to this belief. In the end, I ask if you agree, and what specific moves you would make if this is correct.


Over the last few months I have come to believe that the consensus expectation of future salary cap levels is significantly underestimated. I believe this underestimate is driven by 1) the current collective bargaining agreement incentivizing the league office and owners to use conservative estimates (this results in, for example, projecting the unusually low number of playoff games of the last few years into future estimates), and 2) the current estimate not taking into consideration revenue from new sources (e.g., jersey advertisements & sports gambling). In December 2016, the salary cap estimate by the Player’s Association for the ‘20-’21 season was $120 Million, which is about 20% higher than this year’s $101 million. Again, this projection does not include the new sources of revenue. In short, I believe the salary cap will climb significantly over the next few years.


If the salary cap does increase by more than was expected by the NBA market, 1) long-term contracts at market price now will be significant assets in the future, similarly, long-term contracts that are overpaid now will be at market price in the future, and 2) the use of cap space to sign long term contracts will be more valuable this summer than future summers (both because there will be a greater market inefficiency this year, and also because there will be more teams with cap space than projected in future years), and 3) the ability to generate cap space for another team will be more valuable in the future (as teams recognize there will be significant increases to the salary cap).


If this is correct, then I believe the front office should be aggressive in, 1) acquiring players with long-term contracts through both free agency and the trade market, 2) creating cap space this year, rather than waiting for 2019, 3) acquiring contracts which will facilitate cap creation for other teams, and 4) taking on “bad” contracts in exchange for future draft picks since the rookie contracts will be an even greater value (at least through 2020-2021).


So I am interested in knowing: 1) do you think this is correct and 2) does it change your opinion on any transactions this summer?
 
Cap is projected at 120m in 2020? Wow. That seems way too high. 20% growth in just 2 years. It'll be adjusted down. I don't think the Jazz should gamble their future on such speculation.
 
Cap is projected at 120m in 2020? Wow. That seems way too high. 20% growth in just 2 years. It'll be adjusted down. I don't think the Jazz should gamble their future on such speculation.
i think there's a decent chance of a big spike in light of the whole gambling thing going ahead ??
 
They are going to lose some revenue when the tv rights are re-negotiated... they paid too much last time around and there are too many cord cutters.

There will be a net increase when gambling revenue kicks in.
 
Cap is projected at 120m in 2020? Wow. That seems way too high. 20% growth in just 2 years. It'll be adjusted down. I don't think the Jazz should gamble their future on such speculation.
Thank you, this is exactly my point! There is a very high chance that teams are underestimating how the salary cap will grow over the next few years. There are good reasons to assume that the cap has a growth rate of 8-12 percent over the next 3 years. If this is the case, would it impact your preference on transactions this summer?

For me it would matter. It makes me more interested in trading for Aaron Gordon. I would also be more likely to consider a trade for Andrew Wiggins (for me still a hard pass), or taking on long term salary for a good draft pick.
 
So no one currently gets revenue from Nevada but the NBA and other sports leagues suddenly think they deserve a percentage of future gambling wagers or profits because it’s going to almost go national?

Lmao.
 
Mark Cuban believes gambling will have a huge impact on NBA team revenues: https://www.cbssports.com/general/n...wner-just-saw-the-value-of-their-team-double/

I think that's true more in a way that some people who value the future earning potential of an NBA franchise because of gambling very highly may be willing to overpay, but there won't be any immediate earnings, as the NBA has stated they prefer a national ruling on this matter and then they'll see if they partner up with someone big scale or address it in those states that allow it.

Thank you, this is exactly my point! There is a very high chance that teams are underestimating how the salary cap will grow over the next few years. There are good reasons to assume that the cap has a growth rate of 8-12 percent over the next 3 years. If this is the case, would it impact your preference on transactions this summer?

For me it would matter. It makes me more interested in trading for Aaron Gordon. I would also be more likely to consider a trade for Andrew Wiggins (for me still a hard pass), or taking on long term salary for a good draft pick.

I do not think there will be big jumps in the salary cap because the previous model overestimated competitiveness and maybe didn't calculate people putting less money into the regular season because of those issues.

I'd love throwing Aaron Gordon a big offer sheet and see what Orlando does about it. Could be a worthwhile risk, he looks like someone who has the potential to fit next to Rudy. Even though it's a big gamble because if he doesn't keep his shooting improvements up he won't be worth it (and his free throw situation is still dire)
 
So no one currently gets revenue from Nevada but the NBA and other sports leagues suddenly think they deserve a percentage of future gambling wagers or profits because it’s going to almost go national?

Lmao.

I figured most sports arenas have potential to turn into pseudo gambling houses. They could bank a lot with live, in-house bets that are handled internally. Skip the bookie ******** and have live quarter by quarter bets managed in the arena, with the team running the operation. Maybe even have an app to integrate with so people can bet from their phones while in their seat watching the games or something
 
The NBA's official salary cap projections are 101/108/113/119 for the next 4 years. The player's association threw out the $120 M (vs 108) number out there for their agents to use. But of course, there is a bias for players to make this number higher.

So the bias on the $120 M may be to the downside, not up.

All that could change with sports betting, but there is a lot of uncertainty.

The big long-term uncertainty is around the new TV contracts. Many believe that the current contract is unsustainable and unprofitable for the networks. But long-term with sports betting, who knows?

The last few years, I recall the short-term estimate was dropped in the $5M range, so the trend is not favorable.

So if I were a GM/ owner, I would not place bets that depend on an upward arc
 
So no one currently gets revenue from Nevada but the NBA and other sports leagues suddenly think they deserve a percentage of future gambling wagers or profits because it’s going to almost go national?

Lmao.

There are 2 parts to the equation: (1) direct revenue from betting (1% has been kicked around) as an integrity tax. (2) increased interest in the game (and therefore more spending) due to more fans having a stake in outcomes.

#1 is BOGUS and will never happen.
#2 is REAL and is what Cuban is talking about. Betting will be more accessible and innovative. If you are beating a team by 15 and the line is 14, you stick around the arena and spend money in the 4th quarter. More people watch on TV, more people come to the arena and ticket prices go up. How much? I doubt it is 2X as Cuban claims, but I'd be surprised if it was not a significant increase.
 
I figured most sports arenas have potential to turn into pseudo gambling houses. They could bank a lot with live, in-house bets that are handled internally. Skip the bookie ******** and have live quarter by quarter bets managed in the arena, with the team running the operation. Maybe even have an app to integrate with so people can bet from their phones while in their seat watching the games or something

Yep. Something will happen. I think it'll take 5-10 years. Maybe more. But it will happen.
 
Wait, I'm missing something. Why, exactly, should any casino pay the NBA for the right to bet on NBA games? The court ruled that congress cannot give a right to Nevada casinos, deny it to New Jersey casinos, and forbid states from changing their existing gambling laws. Where in this decision does it say that the NBA must get a cut of every bet placed upon an NBA game? Gambling rights are not owned by sport franchises.

Edit: In order to protect the integrity of the game, the NBA use to deny NBA betting in any state that had an NBA team. This caused some issues when the Jazz use to play some of their "home" games in Las Vegas.

But that was a condition for granting a franchise to a city and was done in a era when the only legalized gambling was in Nevada. The NBA does not have the authority to "tax" gambling, which is regulated by the states.
 
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Thanks for the comments. It has been interesting to hear perspectives on what will happen to the salary cap. I personally think there is a good chance the cap will increase significantly in the next few years, but maybe I am wrong.

I am also interested in the second part of the question (which I actually think is more interesting). If you knew for a certainty there was going to be an large increase to the salary cap, how would your preferences for this summer change?
 
I figured most sports arenas have potential to turn into pseudo gambling houses. They could bank a lot with live, in-house bets that are handled internally. Skip the bookie ******** and have live quarter by quarter bets managed in the arena, with the team running the operation. Maybe even have an app to integrate with so people can bet from their phones while in their seat watching the games or something
If the NBA did this, then the integrity of the game goes all to hell.

New halftime activity:

"Hey <leading scorer>, why you spending so much time in the john?"
"Burritos." <leading scorer> looking at phone app: Hmm, over/under on my 3rd quarter scoring is ... I think I'll take the under for $20k. Uses burn phone to place the bet.

Ref A, "I'm thinking of telling Tony that the home team plus 10 is a bad bet for $1000 each, what do you guys think?"
Ref B, "Yeah, I'll go along with that."
Ref C, "Sure, but make it for $2000 because it looks like the $500 bet I placed before the game is a goner."
 
If the NBA did this, then the integrity of the game goes all to hell.

New halftime activity:

"Hey <leading scorer>, why you spending so much time in the john?"
"Burritos." <leading scorer> looking at phone app: Hmm, over/under on my 3rd quarter scoring is ... I think I'll take the under for $20k. Uses burn phone to place the bet.

Ref A, "I'm thinking of telling Tony that the home team plus 10 is a bad bet for $1000 each, what do you guys think?"
Ref B, "Yeah, I'll go along with that."
Ref C, "Sure, but make it for $2000 because it looks like the $500 bet I placed before the game is a goner."

I mean, the scenarios you referenced are possible with or without inhouse gambling.
 
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