Is it me or does the # 3 pick seem just as good at the #6
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I see what you mean, but its better because if your number 4, 5 or 6 you are not assured of getting the guy you want like you are at number three. That being said, it sorta bugs me that we are more than likely still going after the same guy we were with the sixth pick from a lot of what I have been reading... I guess it just guarantees if we really want Knight, chances are that he is ours.
sportsnut1232
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Having the number 3 gives us more options to choose from, while at number 6 we would get the leftovers that other teams didn't want. If Knight impresses at the Combine and we take him at 3, chances are another team would have drafted him before us if we stayed at 6.
I guess that's one positive of having the 3rd pick. May be you don't take the guy you want at #3 but take the player someone else really wants. Then you do a trade to get additional picks.
For example, what if Toronto really wants Kanter? We pick Kanter ahead of Cleveland, Cleveland (after picking Irving) isn't going to pick Knight, and would probably pick one of the big Euro.
Then Toronto picks Knight for us, with additional draft picks our way and/or takes Bell off our hands.
With the way KOC snagged Deron years ago, I think he is in his elements in these sort of situation. It's gonna be fun to watch what happen.
The opportunity to draft high in the lottery is a rare opportunity. If the Jazz think that Knight is the guy they want, they shouldn't worry about whether they pick him at 3 or 4 or 5. If the Jazz pass on Knight at 3, he could very well be taken 4th by Cleveland or 5th by Toronto. No reason to take a risk if he's the one they want.
The truth is, the Jazz still have a shot at Williams or Irving if one of them drops.
The truth is, the Jazz still have a shot at Williams or Irving if one of them drops.
BENTLEY
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I'm not giddy about Knight at 3 or at 6.
BENTLEY
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This.
Hipporippo
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Really?
To me, it seems like number 3 is just as good as 1 or 2. After 3, it all falls apart. In case you haven't noticed, Enes Kanter is proving that he has size, power, and athleticism usually reserved for number 1 picks. We would be LUCKY if he is available at 3 after all is said and done. Worst case scenario, we get Williams or Irving. MUCH better scenario than choosing at 6.
To me, it seems like number 3 is just as good as 1 or 2. After 3, it all falls apart. In case you haven't noticed, Enes Kanter is proving that he has size, power, and athleticism usually reserved for number 1 picks. We would be LUCKY if he is available at 3 after all is said and done. Worst case scenario, we get Williams or Irving. MUCH better scenario than choosing at 6.
Mission Accomplished
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I believe he is saying this because he sees KOC falling in love with Knight whom we could have picked at 6.
What size, power, and athleticism are you talking about? Kanter has inferior size, power and athleticism to Koufos, Milicic, Podkolzine, Skita, and other NBA busts. He is 6-11, and does not exactly jump out of the gym. His measurements and combines are all right, bit nothing to write home about. And he has no meaningful accomplishments playing organized ball. It would be amazing luck for us if Wolves pick him over Williams, and we end up with Williams in this draft.
Hipporippo
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I guess we will see in a few months who is right and who is wrong. BUT, I think you are a complete moron if you honestly believe Kanter is as weak, slow, or unathletic as Koufus (who may end up being a solid NBA back-up anyway).
Why are so many people so quick to discount a 34 point effort against Sullinger and Barnes while nurturing a sore back that limited his mobility.
This guy is no stiff at all. He looks plenty athletic. And will go for 18 and 10 during his rookie season if given 25 or more minutes a game.
Why are so many people so quick to discount a 34 point effort against Sullinger and Barnes while nurturing a sore back that limited his mobility.
This guy is no stiff at all. He looks plenty athletic. And will go for 18 and 10 during his rookie season if given 25 or more minutes a game.
GVC
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18 and 10 in 25 minutes? Per 35 minutes, that's 25.2 and 14...not realistic at all.
Hipporippo
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Realistic or not, that is my prediction. If he gets fewer minutes, I believe it will still hold up on a per minute basis. But, he may not be able to keep up the same energy over 35 minutes--although his conditioning seems pretty solid.
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enchilada_style
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Why the **** is Koufus even being discussed? For every player in this draft we can find a previous player with similar measurements, skills, etc that failed as an NBA player. I'd like to think the Jazz have done or will do a lot of homework on Kanter and I'm sure Koufus will never be brought up during that evaluation process.
fat reporter-"Hey Kevin, why didn't you draft Kanter?"
KOC-"Because Koufus sucked."
fat reporter-"Hey Kevin, why didn't you draft Kanter?"
KOC-"Because Koufus sucked."
It's a stupid prediction.
Hipporippo
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Well, we will see I guess. But, if you go back to my original post, I did not say that he would get 10 rebounds per 25 minutes played. I said that if he gets AT LEAST 25 minutes per game, then we could expect him to average those totals over the course of games where he got AT LEAST 25 minutes per game.
My point was that if he gets playing time, he will be a super productive guy. I do believe he has the potential to be almost a 20 and 10 guy even during his rookie season.