What's new
By:

Jazz acquire Novak from Raptors

Hotttnickkk said:
Wow.. are you still here???



And I don't mean that in a bad way. Just thought you would have left since the Jazz didn't draft Vonleh????
Click to expand...

It never was about getting 'my guy' my concern was drafting the one player I absolutely didn't want. (I really didn't want Marcus Smart either)

Trigger-finger Trey, Hayward and his Iverson-esque shooting %'s , and Air(ball) Gordon just doesn't do it for me. Thats not enough shooting, Its a terrible answer to the question of how to fix the offense. Id forsee Gordon having to play PF next to Favors, thats not big enough to get it done in the playoffs, so why waste all this time..
 
kabenac said:
OK - I will agree with the supply and demand statement. I still think DL likes Novak for us to be doing this. Also, I have a bad taste in my mouth due to the way DL traded our 2nd in this draft for the Memphis 2nd so maybe that's why I'm annoyed we merely got a 2nd (especially since Toronto had a great season and is in the Eastern Conference - they should definitely be making the playoffs again next season).

The Novak contract isn't awful but Toronto wasn't playing him so I feel like DL did them a favor. I'm Hoping Novak plays well and gets some minutes so the trade is a good one for us. And I also hope Garrett finds another NBA team to play for.
Click to expand...
You have a bad taste in your mouth due to one lousy 2nd round pick after that draft? Unbelievable.
 
kabenac said:
Yep. And if you read the Stokes thread you'll see I'm not the only one. So it's not unbelievable. At all.
Click to expand...

You are right, it's not unbelievable. Unreasonable sure.

All the Jazz did is swap 2nd rounders, That's it. They did so as this is a VERY young team and DL more than likely didn't want 3 more rookies.
 
kabenac said:
Yep. And if you read the Stokes thread you'll see I'm not the only one. So it's not unbelievable. At all.
Click to expand...

I was bummed too but then I thought about the other four or five amazing things Lindsey has done and realize that those FAAAAAAARRRR outweigh one 2nd rounder for 2nd rounder trade.
 
I would have much preferred a Euro-stash (heck, even an American player who would agree to play a season or two in Europe before playing for the Jazz).
 
kabenac said:
I would have much preferred a Euro-stash (heck, even an American player who would agree to play a season or two in Europe before playing for the Jazz).
Click to expand...

So would I but DL had been nothing short of a genius to that point so I really shouldn't have had a reason to be so exaggeratedly pissed or not trusted him.
 
Doublea said:
Wasn't novak a pretty good piece to that 54ish win Knicks team two seasons ago?
Click to expand...

He played 20mpg for a team with a top 5 scorer and a defensive philosophy which revolved around just scoring more points than their opponent. I won't go as far to say the 2012-13 Knicks were a fluke but I will say they were not nearly as good as their record indicated.

Novak should be in Utah for zone busting and taking advantage of bad perimeter defending teams. Anything more than that any you're asking for trouble.
 
Core4 said:
And then we're left with a team that can defend, but not shoot, which is just as bad. What we need are 2-way players. Exum fits that description (we think). Hayward is adequate. Favors probably, although he seemed to take a giant leap backwards. A "system" will certainly help some. After all, the worst defensive player the Jazz had two seasons ago played on a pretty good defensive team last year. And it's not like he suddenly became an all-NBA level defender.

I do agree we need a couple of "3 and D" players. Bazemore would be a good addition. I don't like Aminu. He's a complete liability on the offensive side. Let's at least play 4 1/2 on 5.
Click to expand...

If you can find me these 2-way players in this FA economy, and then put together deals that would bring them to Utah, then I'll be really impressed.
 
Hekate said:
Leonard, Green, Diaw. Timmy to some degree as well.
Click to expand...

Manu's European flopping counts as good defense. Duncan has been an All-Defensive team selection many times. I think he counts as the king of 2-way players and the reason that SA des play great defense.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page
Back
Top