Even I think that is WAY too much for DM.
I think you ask for the moon and then negotiate your way down from there.Even I think that is WAY too much for DM.
I agree with your point but there is a risk of asking for too much and completely turning off people you are negotiating against.I think you ask for the moon and then negotiate your way down from there.
Start by asking for 6 first round picks, 3 pick swaps, Obi, Barrett, Grimes and Quickley.
When the dust settles, they end up keeping Barrett and Quickley, but they give you 5 first round picks, two pick swaps, two second round picks, Toppin, Reddish, Grimes, and rights to Jokubaitis.
And they feel like they ended up winning the trade because they kept 2/4 players you initially asked for and they get their star player who WANTS to be there.
It is top 4 protected for the Pelicans. Also it is a 2025 pick so it has a decent chance to be a solid pick. Giannis will still be in his prime but maintaining a high level core around him by that season could be difficult. They are asset poor and Middleton and Jrue may not even be on the team by that season.Isn't it protected 5-30? I thought NYK only gets it if it's top 4? Maybe I got that wrong... but still, it's a MKE pick... it's another trash pick.
Those picks are protected in a way that works well for us. That Dallas pick likely conveys next year and I think it probably is in the 14-20 range in what should be a really deep draft. The pistons pick probably conveys in 25 which is good because you don't want too many picks too soon. There is a chance the 25 draft could be the double draft if the nba finally eliminates the college rule. It seems like 24 or 25 is likely when it happens. There is a chance we could be sitting on 5 or 6 1sts in that draft which would be crazy. The ideal situation to package picks and move up in a really deep draft.That's a **** offer. The 4 other picks are all heavily protected and the MKE pick has a chance of about 1% maybe less to convert. So it's 5 picks and 3 of them are trash picks.
Pshh. I said the same thing in January
Would be fair to ask for the Dallas ‘23 as well. That is the year of all years I want as many picks as possible. Get enough of those and you might be able to trade into the late lottery (where there is usually a player that pops and in retrospect should’ve gone top-5).23/25/27/29 pick swaps 24/26/28 unprotected 1sts plus 3 of the other 1sts they have would be cool too.
Same concept except we get 1 less unprotected 1st from them but adding 1/2 pick swaps we control all 7 possible years. Put it that we can swap Minnesota’s 1st with theirs next year if we want to.
Would be fair to ask for the Dallas ‘23 as well. That is the year of all years I want as many picks as possible. Get enough of those and you might be able to trade into the late lottery (where there is usually a player that pops and in retrospect should’ve gone top-5).
Every Knicks fan on twitter and even some of the writers are completely convinced that the Knicks have all the leverage. It's pretty amusing.
Don't listen to NYK fans. Knicks have no leverage.
There is no such thing as a team wanting to trade for a 25 year old 3 time all star who has 3 years on his deal having leverage in trade talks. Ainge has ALL the leverage anyone can ask for. The team that has the most valuable asset that others want always has the leverage.
Or a year to blow their assets on Beal or Lillard. And Leon Rose not being with the Knicks would be a bad thing.A year from now, after Leon Rose and his team have been fired, the Jazz can re-explore Mitchell's trade market. That will also give more teams a year to make moves to trade for him.
I just don’t get it, there’s no logic to that argument. It might be fun to hold him for a year and have an ASG representative in Utah - I could get behind delaying the tank for a year to make sure we maximize our guys value. You tell Donovan that we’ll trade him to a preferred destination when the time is right, and if he demands a trade he’s going to Sacramento. The Knicks regime could legitimately get fired for making this deal, there’s no risk of that happening in Utah. They might have the most picks of the potential suitors right now, but that can change VERY quickly.Every Knicks fan on twitter and even some of the writers are completely convinced that the Knicks have all the leverage. It's pretty amusing.
Thanks for taking one for the team (watching for those of us who cannot) and offering your thoughts.I'm watching Quentin Grimes in Summer League play against the Blazers. I think he's a backup combo-guard. I don't think he's going to affect the Mitchell deal much one way or another. He's less established as a player than Beasley, Beverly or even Vanderbilt for Minnesota.